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From: Ritesh Harjani (IBM) <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/9] ext4: Add direct-io atomic write support using fsawu
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2024 18:43:40 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il1zpkor.fsf@doe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4bd58d4-723f-4c94-bf46-826bceeb6a8d@oracle.com>

John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com> writes:

> On 02/03/2024 07:41, Ritesh Harjani (IBM) wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> This RFC series adds support for atomic writes to ext4 direct-io using
>> filesystem atomic write unit. It's built on top of John's "block atomic
>> write v5" series which adds RWF_ATOMIC flag interface to pwritev2() and enables
>> atomic write support in underlying device driver and block layer.
>> 
>> This series uses the same RWF_ATOMIC interface for adding atomic write support
>> to ext4's direct-io path. One can utilize it by 2 of the methods explained below.
>> ((1)mkfs.ext4 -b <BS>, (2) with bigalloc).
>> 
>> Filesystem atomic write unit (fsawu):
>> ============================================
>> Atomic writes within ext4 can be supported using below 3 methods -
>> 1. On a large pagesize system (e.g. Power with 64k pagesize or aarch64 with 64k pagesize),
>>     we can mkfs using different blocksizes. e.g. mkfs.ext4 -b <4k/8k/16k/32k/64k).
>>     Now if the underlying HW device supports atomic writes, than a corresponding
>>     blocksize can be chosen as a filesystem atomic write unit (fsawu) which
>>     should be within the underlying hw defined [awu_min, awu_max] range.
>>     For such filesystem, fsawu_[min|max] both are equal to blocksize (e.g. 16k)
>> 
>>     On a smaller pagesize system this can be utilized when support for LBS is
>>     complete (on ext4).
>> 
>> 2. EXT4 already supports a feature called bigalloc. In that ext4 can handle
>>     allocation in cluster size units. So for e.g. we can create a filesystem with
>>     4k blocksize but with 64k clustersize. Such a configuration can also be used
>>     to support atomic writes if the underlying hw device supports it.
>>     In such case the fsawu_min will most likely be the filesystem blocksize and
>>     fsawu_max will mostly likely be the cluster size.
>> 
>>     So a user can do an atomic write of any size between [fsawu_min, fsawu_max]
>>     range as long as it satisfies other constraints being laid out by HW device
>>     (or by software stack) to support atomic writes.
>>     e.g. len should be a power of 2, pos % len should be naturally
>>     aligned and [start | end] (phys offsets) should not straddle over
>>     an atomic write boundary.
>
> JFYI, I gave this a quick try, and it seems to work ok. Naturally it 

Thanks John for giving this a try!

> suffers from the same issue discussed at 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/434c570e-39b2-4f1c-9b49-ac5241d310ca@oracle.com/ 
> with regards to writing to partially written extents, which I have tried 
> to address properly in my v2 for that same series.

I did go through other revisions, but I guess I missed going through this series.

Thanks Dave & John for your comments over the series.
Let me go through the revisions I have missed and John's latest revision.
I will update this series accordingly.

Appreciate your help!
-ritesh

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-02  7:41 [RFC 0/9] ext4: Add direct-io atomic write support using fsawu Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-02  7:41 ` [RFC 1/8] fs: Add FS_XFLAG_ATOMICWRITES flag Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-02  7:41   ` [RFC 2/8] fs: Reserve inode flag FS_ATOMICWRITES_FL for atomic writes Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-04  0:59     ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-08  7:19       ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2024-03-02  7:42   ` [RFC 3/8] iomap: Add atomic write support for direct-io Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-04  1:16     ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-04  5:33       ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-03-04  8:49         ` John Garry
2024-03-04 10:31           ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-03-04 20:56         ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-02  7:42   ` [RFC 4/8] ext4: Add statx and other atomic write helper routines Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-06 11:14     ` John Garry
2024-03-08  8:10       ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-03-02  7:42   ` [RFC 5/8] ext4: Adds direct-io atomic writes checks Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-02  7:42   ` [RFC 6/8] ext4: Add an inode flag for atomic writes Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-04 20:34     ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-08  8:02       ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-03-02  7:42   ` [RFC 7/8] ext4: Enable FMODE_CAN_ATOMIC_WRITE in open for direct-io Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-02  7:42   ` [RFC 8/8] ext4: Adds atomic writes using fsawu Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-02  7:42 ` [RFC 9/9] e2fsprogs/chattr: Supports atomic writes attribute Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-06 11:22 ` [RFC 0/9] ext4: Add direct-io atomic write support using fsawu John Garry
2024-03-06 13:13   ` Ritesh Harjani [this message]
2024-03-08 20:25   ` [RFC] ext4: Add support for ext4_map_blocks_atomic() Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-03-09  2:37     ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-03-13 18:40     ` John Garry
2024-03-14 15:52       ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-03-18  8:22         ` John Garry

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