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From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Ted Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	yebin <yebin@huaweicloud.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: Add config option to not allow writing to mounted devices
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 08:09:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACT4Y+ZsN3wemvGLVyNWj9zjykGwcHoy581w7GuAHGpAj1YLxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZIf6RrbeyZVXBRhm@infradead.org>

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 at 07:10, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> > +config BLK_DEV_WRITE_HARDENING
> > +     bool "Do not allow writing to mounted devices"
> > +     help
> > +     When a block device is mounted, writing to its buffer cache very likely
> > +     going to cause filesystem corruption. It is also rather easy to crash
> > +     the kernel in this way since the filesystem has no practical way of
> > +     detecting these writes to buffer cache and verifying its metadata
> > +     integrity. Select this option to disallow writing to mounted devices.
> > +     This should be mostly fine but some filesystems (e.g. ext4) rely on
> > +     the ability of filesystem tools to write to mounted filesystems to
> > +     set e.g. UUID or run fsck on the root filesystem in some setups.
>
> I'm not sure a config option is really the right thing.
>
> I'd much prefer a BLK_OPEN_ flag to prohibit any other writer.
> Except for etN and maybe fat all file systems can set that
> unconditionally.  And for those file systems that have historically
> allowed writes to mounted file systems they can find a local way
> to decide on when and when not to set it.

I don't question there are use cases for the flag, but there are use
cases for the config as well.

Some distros may want a guarantee that this does not happen as it
compromises lockdown and kernel integrity (on par with unsigned module
loading).
For fuzzing systems it also may be hard to ensure fine-grained
argument constraints, it's much easier and more reliable to prohibit
it on config level.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-13  6:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-12 16:16 [PATCH] block: Add config option to not allow writing to mounted devices Jan Kara
2023-06-12 16:25 ` Jan Kara
2023-06-12 17:39   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-06-12 17:47     ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-12 18:52     ` Colin Walters
2023-06-13 11:34       ` Jan Kara
2023-06-14  1:55         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-06-14  7:14           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-14  7:05         ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-14  7:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-14  7:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-14 10:12           ` Jan Kara
2023-06-14 14:30             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-14 14:46             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-13  4:56 ` kernel test robot
2023-06-13  5:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-13  6:09   ` Dmitry Vyukov [this message]
2023-06-14  7:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-14  8:18       ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-14 10:36         ` Jan Kara
2023-06-14 12:48           ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-15 14:39             ` Jan Kara
2023-06-14 14:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-13 20:56   ` Jan Kara
2023-06-14  7:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-20 10:41       ` Jan Kara
2023-06-20 11:29         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-14  7:35     ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-13  6:49 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-06-13 19:22   ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-14  0:26   ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-14  2:04   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-06-14  2:57     ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-14 12:27     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-06-14 23:38       ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-15  9:14         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-06-18 23:35           ` Dave Chinner

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