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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 09:10:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2f6c4c1-856a-d233-8610-67a868b856f9@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180528092138.GI1517@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 05/28/2018 02:21 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sun 27-05-18 15:47:22, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:16:24AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Fri 25-05-18 08:17:15, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 01:43:41PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the
>>>>> +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and
>>>>> +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that
>>>>> +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier
>>>>> +maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying
>>>> to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before
>>>> locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might
>>>> require access to."
>>>>
>>>> I think it's also worth making a note about recursive/nested
>>>> save/restore stacking, because it's not clear from this description
>>>> that this is allowed and will work as long as inner save/restore
>>>> calls are fully nested inside outer save/restore contexts.
>>>
>>> Any better?
>>>
>>> -FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the
>>> -layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and
>>> -the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that
>>> -ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier
>>> -maintenance.
>>> +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any
>>> +lock shared with the reclaim context is taken.  The corresponding
>>> +restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with
>>
>> Maybe: "The corresponding restore function is called when the lock is
>> released"
> 
> This will get rewritten some more based on comments from Dave
>  
>>> +an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance.
>>> +
>>> +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting
>>> +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.
>>  
>> so it is safe to call memalloc_noio_save from an existing NOIO or NOFS
>> scope
> 
> Here is what I have right now on top
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst b/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst
> index c0ec212d6773..0cff411693ab 100644
> --- a/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst
> @@ -34,12 +34,15 @@ scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS respectively __GFP_IO from the given
>  mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.
>  
>  FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any
> -lock shared with the reclaim context is taken.  The corresponding
> -restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with
> -an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance.
> -
> -Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting
> -so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.
> +critical section wrt. the reclaim is started - e.g. lock shared with the

Please spell out "with respect to".

> +reclaim context or when a transaction context nesting would be possible
> +via reclaim. The corresponding restore function when the critical

"The corresponding restore ... ends."  << That is not a complete sentence.
It's missing something.

> +section ends. All that ideally along with an explanation what is
> +the reclaim context for easier maintenance.
> +
> +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows
> +nesting so it is safe to call ``memalloc_noio_save`` respectively
> +``memalloc_noio_restore`` from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.

Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore functions allows
nesting so it is safe to call ``memalloc_noio_save`` or
``memalloc_noio_restore`` respectively from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.


>  
>  What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS)
>  ==============================
> 


-- 
~Randy

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-28 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20180424183536.GF30619@thunk.org>
2018-05-24 11:43 ` [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 14:33   ` Shakeel Butt
2018-05-24 14:47     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 16:37   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-25  7:52     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28  7:21       ` Nikolay Borisov
2018-05-29  8:22         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 11:32       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 20:52   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-25  8:11     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 22:17   ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-24 23:25     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-25  8:16     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-27 12:47       ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-28  9:21         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 16:10           ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2018-05-29  8:21             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-27 23:48       ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-28  9:19         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 22:32           ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-29  8:18             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29  8:26   ` [PATCH v2] " Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 10:22     ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-29 11:50     ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-29 11:51     ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-29 12:37       ` Michal Hocko

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