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From: Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 02/15] livepatch: avoid position-based search if `-z unique-symbol` is available
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:14:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220214121447.288695-1-alexandr.lobakin@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220211174130.xxgjoqr2vidotvyw@treble>

From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:41:30 -0800

> On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 07:57:39PM +0100, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> > Position-based search, which means that if there are several symbols
> > with the same name, the user needs to additionally provide the
> > "index" of a desired symbol, is fragile. For example, it breaks
> > when two symbols with the same name are located in different
> > sections.
> > 
> > Since a while, LD has a flag `-z unique-symbol` which appends
> > numeric suffixes to the functions with the same name (in symtab
> > and strtab). It can be used to effectively prevent from having
> > any ambiguity when referring to a symbol by its name.
> 
> In the patch description can you also give the version of binutils (and
> possibly other linkers) which have the flag?

Yeah, sure.

> 
> > Check for its availability and always prefer when the livepatching
> > is on. It can be used unconditionally later on after broader testing
> > on a wide variety of machines, but for now let's stick to the actual
> > CONFIG_LIVEPATCH=y case, which is true for most of distro configs
> > anyways.
> 
> Has anybody objected to just enabling it for *all* configs, not just for
> livepatch?

A few folks previously.

> 
> I'd much prefer that: the less "special" livepatch is (and the distros
> which enable it), the better.  And I think having unique symbols would
> benefit some other components.

Agree, I just want this series to be as least invasive for
non-FG-KASLR builds as possible. And currently this flag make depmod
emit a bunch of harmless false-positive warnings, so I'd wait until
at least the series is accepted / I post a patch for depmod and it
gets accepted.

> 
> > +++ b/kernel/livepatch/core.c
> > @@ -143,11 +143,13 @@ static int klp_find_callback(void *data, const char *name,
> >  	args->count++;
> >  
> >  	/*
> > -	 * Finish the search when the symbol is found for the desired position
> > -	 * or the position is not defined for a non-unique symbol.
> > +	 * Finish the search when unique symbol names are enabled
> > +	 * or the symbol is found for the desired position or the
> > +	 * position is not defined for a non-unique symbol.
> >  	 */
> > -	if ((args->pos && (args->count == args->pos)) ||
> > -	    (!args->pos && (args->count > 1)))
> > +	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_LD_HAS_Z_UNIQUE_SYMBOL) ||
> > +	    (args->pos && args->count == args->pos) ||
> > +	    (!args->pos && args->count > 1))
> >  		return 1;
> 
> There's no real need to do this.  The code already works as-is, even if
> there are no unique symbols.
> 
> Even if there are no duplicates, there's little harm in going through
> all the symbols anyway, to check for errors just in case something
> unexpected happened with the linking (unexpected duplicate) or the patch
> creation (unexpected sympos).  It's not a hot path, so performance isn't
> really a concern.
> 
> When the old linker versions eventually age out, we can then go strip
> out all the sympos stuff.
> 
> > @@ -169,6 +171,13 @@ static int klp_find_object_symbol(const char *objname, const char *name,
> >  	else
> >  		kallsyms_on_each_symbol(klp_find_callback, &args);
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * If the LD's `-z unique-symbol` flag is available and enabled,
> > +	 * sympos checks are not relevant.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_LD_HAS_Z_UNIQUE_SYMBOL))
> > +		sympos = 0;
> > +
> 
> Similarly, I don't see a need for this.  If the patch is legit then
> sympos should already be zero.  If not, an error gets reported and the
> patch fails to load.

Right, but for both those chunks the main idea is to let the
compiler optimize-out the code non-actual for unique-symbol builds:

add/remove: 0/0 grow/shrink: 1/2 up/down: 3/-80 (-77)
Function                                     old     new   delta
klp_find_callback                            139     142      +3
klp_find_object_symbol.cold                   85      48     -37
klp_find_object_symbol                       168     125     -43

> 
> -- 
> Josh

Thanks,
Al

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-14 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-09 18:57 [PATCH v10 00/15] Function Granular KASLR Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 01/15] modpost: fix removing numeric suffixes Alexander Lobakin
2022-05-03  0:57   ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-05-03  7:31   ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-23 18:04   ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-05-24 11:33     ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-05-24 13:40       ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 02/15] livepatch: avoid position-based search if `-z unique-symbol` is available Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-11 17:41   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-11 18:05     ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2022-02-11 18:35       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-14 12:24         ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-14 18:10           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-16 20:32             ` Joe Lawrence
2022-02-16 22:13               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-16 15:15         ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-16 20:01           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 16:31           ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-18 20:08             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-14 12:14     ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2022-02-14 18:57       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-16 15:06     ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-16 19:57       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-17  7:45         ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 03/15] kallsyms: randomize /proc/kallsyms output order Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 04/15] arch: introduce asm function sections Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 05/15] x86: support " Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-11 15:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-14 11:49     ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 06/15] x86: decouple ORC table sorting into a separate file Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 07/15] Makefile: add config options and build scripts for FG-KASLR Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 08/15] x86/tools: Add relative relocs for randomized functions Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 09/15] x86: Add support for function granular KASLR Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 10/15] FG-KASLR: use a scripted approach to handle .text.* sections Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-11 15:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-14 11:34     ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-14 11:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-14 12:30         ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 11/15] x86/boot: allow FG-KASLR to be selected Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 12/15] module: add arch-indep FG-KASLR for randomizing function layout Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 13/15] module: use a scripted approach for FG-KASLR Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 14/15] Documentation: add documentation " Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 15/15] maintainers: add MAINTAINERS entry " Alexander Lobakin

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