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From: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@mellanox.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: "robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"vijaykhemka@fb.com" <vijaykhemka@fb.com>,
	"linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 5/5] hwmon: (pmbus/tps53679) Extend device list supported by driver
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 06:06:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM6PR05MB5224ED5368BD037051F5BF92A23F0@AM6PR05MB5224.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guenter Roeck <groeck7@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Guenter Roeck
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 3:29 AM
> To: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@mellanox.com>
> Cc: robh+dt@kernel.org; vijaykhemka@fb.com; linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org;
> devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 5/5] hwmon: (pmbus/tps53679) Extend
> device list supported by driver
> 
> On 1/6/20 2:29 PM, Vadim Pasternak wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Guenter Roeck <groeck7@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Guenter Roeck
> >> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 11:01 PM
> >> To: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@mellanox.com>
> >> Cc: robh+dt@kernel.org; vijaykhemka@fb.com;
> >> linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org; devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 5/5] hwmon: (pmbus/tps53679)
> >> Extend device list supported by driver
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:57:32PM +0000, Vadim Pasternak wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Guenter Roeck <groeck7@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Guenter Roeck
> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 4:53 PM
> >>>> To: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@mellanox.com>; robh+dt@kernel.org;
> >>>> vijaykhemka@fb.com
> >>>> Cc: linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org; devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 5/5] hwmon: (pmbus/tps53679)
> >>>> Extend device list supported by driver
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/6/20 4:16 AM, Vadim Pasternak wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Guenter Roeck <groeck7@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Guenter
> >>>>>> Roeck
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 8:35 PM
> >>>>>> To: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@mellanox.com>; robh+dt@kernel.org;
> >>>>>> vijaykhemka@fb.com
> >>>>>> Cc: linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org; devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 5/5] hwmon:
> >>>>>> (pmbus/tps53679) Extend device list supported by driver
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/5/20 8:44 AM, Vadim Pasternak wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Guenter Roeck <groeck7@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Guenter
> >>>>>>>> Roeck
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 6:04 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@mellanox.com>; robh+dt@kernel.org;
> >>>>>>>> vijaykhemka@fb.com
> >>>>>>>> Cc: linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org; devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 5/5] hwmon:
> >>>>>>>> (pmbus/tps53679) Extend device list supported by driver
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 1/5/20 2:58 AM, Vadim Pasternak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Extends driver with support of the additional devices:
> >>>>>>>>> Texas Instruments Dual channel DCAP+ multiphase controllers:
> >>>>>>>>> TPS53688, SN1906016.
> >>>>>>>>> Infineon Multi-phase Digital VR Controller Sierra devices
> >>>>>>>>> XDPE12286C, XDPE12284C, XDPE12283C, XDPE12254C and
> >> XDPE12250C.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Extend Kconfig with added devices.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@mellanox.com>
> >>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>      drivers/hwmon/pmbus/Kconfig    |  5 +++--
> >>>>>>>>>      drivers/hwmon/pmbus/tps53679.c | 14 ++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>>>>      2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/hwmon/pmbus/Kconfig
> >>>>>>>>> b/drivers/hwmon/pmbus/Kconfig index
> >> 59859979571d..9e3d197d5322
> >>>>>>>>> 100644
> >>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/hwmon/pmbus/Kconfig
> >>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/hwmon/pmbus/Kconfig
> >>>>>>>>> @@ -200,10 +200,11 @@ config SENSORS_TPS40422
> >>>>>>>>>      	  be called tps40422.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>      config SENSORS_TPS53679
> >>>>>>>>> -	tristate "TI TPS53679"
> >>>>>>>>> +	tristate "TI TPS53679, TPS53688, SN1906016, Infineon
> >>>>>>>>> +XDPE122xxx
> >>>>>>>> family"
> >>>>>>>>>      	help
> >>>>>>>>>      	  If you say yes here you get hardware monitoring support for TI
> >>>>>>>>> -	  TPS53679.
> >>>>>>>>> +	  TPS53679, PS53688, SN1906016 and Infineon XDPE12286C,
> >>>>>>>> XDPE12284C,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> TPS53688. For the others, for some I can't even determine if
> >>>>>>>> they exist in the first place (eg SN1906016, XPDE12250C) or how
> >>>>>>>> they would differ from other variants (eg XPDE12284C vs.
> >> XPDE12284A).
> >>>>>>>> And why would they all use the same bit map in the VOUT_MODE
> >>>>>>>> register, the same number of PMBus pages (phases), and the same
> >>>>>>>> attributes
> >>>>>> in each page ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Guenter,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you for reply.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On our new system we have device XPDE12284C equipped.
> >>>>>>> I tested this device.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sounds good, but did you also make sure that all chips have the
> >>>>>> same number of pages (phases), the same set of commands as the TI
> >>>>>> chip, and support the same bit settings in VOUT_MODE ? It seems a
> >>>>>> bit unlikely that TI's register definitions would make it into an
> >>>>>> Infineon
> >> chip.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, what about the SN1906016 ? I don't find that anywhere,
> >>>>>> except in one place where it is listed as MCU from TI.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll drop SN1906016.
> >>>>> Datasheet has a title Dual channel DCAP+ multiphase controllers:
> >>>>> TPS53688, SN1906016.
> >>>>> But maybe it's some custom device (anyway I'll try to check it with TI).
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Or maybe SN1906016 means something else. Unless we have explicit
> >>>> confirmation that the chip exists (or will exist) we should not add
> >>>> it to the
> >> list.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Infineon datasheet refers all these device as XDPE122xxC family
> >>>>>>> and it doesn't specify any differences in register map between
> >>>>>>> these
> >> devices.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is a bit vague, especially when it includes devices which
> >>>>>> return zero results with Google searches.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "A" vs. "C" may distinguish automotive vs. commercial; the "A"
> >>>>>> device is listed under automotive. If the command set is the
> >>>>>> same, I don't really want the "c" in the id.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Got feedback from Infineon guys.
> >>>>> No need 'C' at the end, as you wrote.
> >>>>> All XDPE12250, XDPE12254, XDPE12283, XDPE12284, XDPE12286 are
> >>>>> treated in the same way:
> >>>>> same pages, same VOUT_MODE, VOUT_READ, etcetera.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And same as TI, including VOUT_MODE ? Also, did they confirm that
> >>>> the unpublished chips do or will actually exist ?
> >>>
> >>> Hi Gunther,
> >>>
> >>> According to the input I got from Infineon guys, these device are
> >>> already available for the customers, like XPDE12284, which is
> >>> equipped on new Mellanox 400Gx32 Ethernet system, on which we are
> working now.
> >>>
> >>> But I'll re-check if all these devices are available today to be on
> >>> the safe Side.
> >>>
> >>> Regarding VOUT modes:
> >>> TPS53679 uses modes - 0x01, 0x02, 0x04, 0x05, 0x07
> >>> TPS53688 uses modes - 0x04, 0x07
> >>> XDPE122xxx uses modes - 0x01, 0x02, 0x03 and additionally 0x10,
> >>> which is for 6.25mV VID table (AMD application).
> >>>
> >>
> >> The problem is that PMBus does not define VID mode values. If it did,
> >> we could add vrm version detection detection to the pmbus core. 0x01
> >> for
> >> TPS53679 _may_ be the same as 0x01 for XDPE122xxx, or maybe not.
> >> There is no way to be sure without datasheets.
> >>
> >>> I didn't add support for mode 0x10 in the patch.
> >>>
> >>> The VID table for the AMD application is different from the Intel
> >>> VID tables.
> >>>
> >>> A value of 0x0 corresponds to the highest output voltage of 1.55V.
> >>> The voltage is reduced in 6.25mV steps down to the value 0xd8, which
> >>> corresponds to 0.2V.
> >>>
> >>> The formula for the calculation of the output voltage would be:
> >>>
> >>> 	case DON’T_NOW_HOW_TO_CALL_IT:
> >>
> >> Doesn't the datasheet have something to say ?
> >
> > It just specifies VID table format as
> > 0 = 10mV VID table
> > 1 = 5mv VID table
> > 2 = 6.25mv VID table
> > 3 = 10mV VID table (200mV offset)
> > calculation as:
> > Range: 0 = Off, 1 (250mV) to 255 (1520mV); vid_table=0 (10mV)
> > Range: 0 = Off, 1 (500mV) to 255 (3040mV); vid_table=1 (5mV)
> > Range: 0 = Off, 1 (200mV) to 255 (2740mV); vid_table=3 (10mV)
> > Range: 0 = (1550mV) to 247 (6.25mV); 248~255 = Off; vid_table=2
> > (6.25mV)
> >
> > And VOUT_MODE[4:0] as:
> > 00001 = 5mV VID table (VR12)
> > 00010 = 10mV VID table (VR12.5 or VR13)
> > 00011 = 10mV VID table (IMVP9)
> > 10000 = 6.25mV VID table (AMD application) others = illegal setting -
> > PMBus write is acked, but no write occurs
> >
> >>
> >>> 		if (val >= 0x00 && val <= 0xd8)
> >>>                			rv = 1550 – (val *6.25);
> >>>
> >>> I doubled check it.
> >>>
> >>> Do you think it should added as well?
> >>>
> >> I am quite neutral on that. I am much more concerned with the
> >> assumption that the mode values have the same meaning for chips from
> >> different vendors. In this case, what do we do if TI starts shipping
> >> a chip in the TPS53xxx series which uses mode 0x10 for something else ?
> >>
> >> Overall I'd rather play safe and add a separate driver for the Infineon chips.
> >
> > I see.
> >
> > We actually waned to have ability of transparent replacement of TI and
> > Infineon devices within the same type of system.
> >
> 
> That should not be a problem as long as you instantiate them differently.
> After all, the relevant information _should_ be available in ACPI tables.
> Otherwise you'd have to claim that a chip is, say, tps53688, while it is really an
> Infineon chip. And that is never a good idea.
> 
> > Maybe it's possible to have 0x01, 0x02, 0x03, 0x04, 0x05, 0x07 as a
> > basic set and support for example 0x10 according to specific device id?
> >
> 
> Unfortunately not, because there is no standard defining those. TI might at
> some point decide to sell a new chip where 0x03 means something completely
> different. On top of that, I already know that at least some of the TI chips of this
> series have more than two pages. Unfortunately, the information I have is vague
> (no datasheet again). That is another reason for avoiding pollution of the tps
> driver with non-TI chip support.

OK.
So, I think to modify the patch as following:

Add sperate driver  xdpe122xx with support this Infineon family (after final
checking with Infineon, which of the are available).
It will support 0x01, 0x02, 0x03, 0x10.

Add tps53688 to tps53679 driver.

Add two new vrf versions imvp9, amd625mv (I only don't know what is the
best naming for these new modes).

And these new modes will be handled as:
	case imvp9:
		if (val >= 0x01)
			rv = 200 + (val - 1) * 10;
		break;
	case amd625mv:
		if (val >= 0x0 && val <= 0xd8)
			rv = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(155000 - val * 625, 100);
		break;

What it be fine?

If yes, I'll make v1 patch version.

Thanks,
Vadim.

> 
> Thanks,
> Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-07  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-05 10:58 [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 0/5] hwmon: (pmbus) Add support for vid mode calculation per page bases Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-05 10:58 ` [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 1/5] hwmon: (pmbus/core) Add support for vid mode detection " Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-05 10:58 ` [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 2/5] hwmon: (pmbus/core) Add support for Intel IMVP9 specification Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-05 16:26   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-05 17:15     ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-06 12:14     ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-05 10:58 ` [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 3/5] hwmon: (pmbus/tps53679) Allow " Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-05 10:58 ` [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 4/5] dt-bindings: Add TI and Infineon VR Controllers as trivial devices Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-05 10:58 ` [RFC PATCH hwmon-next v1 5/5] hwmon: (pmbus/tps53679) Extend device list supported by driver Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-05 16:03   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-05 16:44     ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-05 18:34       ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-06 12:16         ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-06 14:52           ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-06 16:57             ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-06 21:01               ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-06 22:29                 ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-07  1:28                   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-07  6:06                     ` Vadim Pasternak [this message]
2020-01-07 12:14                       ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-08 14:10                         ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-08 16:47                           ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-13 12:25                             ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-13 20:56                               ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-14  6:54                                 ` Vadim Pasternak
2020-01-14 14:19                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-01-16 19:54                                     ` Vadim Pasternak

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