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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Lev R. Oshvang ." <levonshe@gmail.com>,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>
Cc: "linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@us.ibm.com>,
	Silviu Vlasceanu <Silviu.Vlasceanu@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] integrity ima_policy : Select files by suffix
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:05:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1585591534.5188.435.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP22eLGbwcXzBDpc2QbMOGtjrdYsufUf-8vq4uHt8jjPoQanKQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Lev,

On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 20:21 +0300, Lev R. Oshvang . wrote:
> I already answered to Mimi Zohar that applications expect file name in
> open() syscall.

And I disagreed with you.  Not only can filenames be renamed, as I
mentioned, but they aren't protected, as Roberto said.

> So there is no need to protect file name otherwise applications just
> stop to work.
> Even now when ima hash is not correct application stops to work.
> Put aside scripts for a second. A lot of programs are configured in
> .ini or .conf files.
> The suffix is a very convenient way to provide these files would be measured.
> 
> Now I returning to scripts.
> It is very hard to enforce IMA checks in interpreters. And thinks
> about perl scrips. awk. python scripts. etc
> The proposed suffix rule is easy and lightweight.
> I once had programmed BRM hook of LSM
> I had a very hard time trying to figure out whether shell is opening a
> script or data , how to get filename to check its signature.
> Sometimes script file does not have shebang or does not have
> executable permission.

Only the interpreter knows how the file will be used.

> 
> I hope I convinced you.

There have been a number of attempts to define IMA policy rules based
on pathname, which have not been upstreamed.  Feel free to use your
solution, but it can't be upstreamed as is.
  
Mimi


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-30 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-30 12:27 [PATCH] integrity ima_policy : Select files by suffix Lev Olshvang
2020-03-30 16:45 ` Roberto Sassu
2020-03-30 17:21   ` Lev R. Oshvang .
2020-03-30 18:05     ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2020-03-30 20:01       ` Lev R. Oshvang .

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