From: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] pci: export untrusted attribute in sysfs
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 12:14:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHp75Vf71f2s6yipHJ4Ys1oe1v7L4PiqBCEbo0uBcG7Wpcs5dQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200618083646.GA1066967@kroah.com>
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:36 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:12:56AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:56 PM Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:31 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > (and likely call it "external" instead of "untrusted".
> >
> > Which is not okay. 'External' to what? 'untrusted' has been carefully
> > chosen by the meaning of it.
> > What external does mean for M.2. WWAN card in my laptop? It's in ACPI
> > tables, but I can replace it.
>
> Then your ACPI tables should show this, there is an attribute for it,
> right?
There is a _PLD() method, but it's for the USB devices (or optional
for others, I don't remember by heart). So, most of the ACPI tables,
alas, don't show this.
> > This is only one example. Or if firmware of some device is altered,
> > and it's internal (whatever it means) is it trusted or not?
>
> That is what people are using policy for today, if you object to this,
> please bring it up to those developers :)
> > So, please leave it as is (I mean name).
>
> firmware today exports this attribute, why do you not want userspace to
> also know it?
>
> Trust is different, yes, don't get the two mixed up please. That should
> be a different sysfs attribute for obvious reasons.
Yes, as a bottom line that's what I meant as well.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-18 9:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-16 1:17 [PATCH 1/4] pci: Keep the ACS capability offset in device Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-16 1:17 ` [PATCH 2/4] pci: set "untrusted" flag for truly external devices only Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-16 9:07 ` Mika Westerberg
2020-06-16 1:17 ` [PATCH 3/4] pci: acs: Enable PCI_ACS_TB for untrusted/external-facing devices Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-19 16:10 ` Raj, Ashok
2020-06-22 23:01 ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-16 1:17 ` [PATCH 4/4] pci: export untrusted attribute in sysfs Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-16 5:57 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-16 7:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-16 19:27 ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-17 7:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-17 19:53 ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-18 6:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-18 8:12 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-18 8:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-18 9:14 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2020-06-18 14:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-18 15:03 ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-18 15:39 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-18 16:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-18 16:23 ` Raj, Ashok
2020-06-18 17:23 ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2020-06-18 18:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-18 23:58 ` Rajat Jain via iommu
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