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From: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Cc: "Bird, Tim" <Tim.Bird@sony.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"shuah@kernel.org" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Gow <davidgow@google.com>
Subject: Re: RFC - kernel selftest result documentation (KTAP)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 13:47:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <398200b2-f8bc-894d-6d6f-366ff98a490e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202006161653.15C278A5@keescook>

On 2020-06-16 18:58, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:44:28PM -0700, Brendan Higgins wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:42 AM Bird, Tim <Tim.Bird@sony.com> wrote:
>>>> From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> On 15/06/20 21:07, Bird, Tim wrote:
>>>>>> Note: making the plan line required differs from TAP13 and TAP14. I
>>>>>> think it's the right choice, but we should be clear.
>>>>
>>>> As an aside, where is TAP14?
>>> By TAP14, I was referring to the current, undocumented, KUnit
>>> conventions.
>>
>> Not so. TAP14 is the proposed next version of TAP13:
>>
>> https://github.com/TestAnything/testanything.github.io/pull/36
>> https://github.com/isaacs/testanything.github.io/blob/tap14/tap-version-14-specification.md
> 
> I was reading this (I haven't compared to the blob above):
> 
> https://github.com/TestAnything/Specification/blob/tap-14-specification/specification.md
> 
>> Based on the discussion, it seems like most of the things we wanted
>> from TAP14 would probably make it in if TAP ever accepts another pull
>> request.
> 
> Were our leading diagnostic lines part of their latest spec? I thought
> we were pretty far off in left field for that particular bit.
> 
>>> My personal preference is to have the dash.  I think it's more human readable.
>>> I note that the TAP spec has examples of result lines both with and without
>>> the dash, so even the spec is ambiguous on this.   I think not mandating it
>>> either way is probably best.  For regex parsers, it's easy to ignore with '[-]?'
>>> outside the pattern groups that grab the number and description.
>>
>> I don't think we care, because we don't use it.
> 
> Yeah, I'm in the same place. I don't care -- I would just like a
> determination. (The "implied" nature of it in TAP14 bothers me.)
> 
>>>> XFAIL/XPASS are different from SKIP.  I personally don't have a need for
>>>> them, but kselftests includes XFAIL/XPASS exit codes and they aren't
>>>> reflected into selftests/kselftest/runner.sh.
>>>>
>>>> Likewise, kselftest.h has ksft_inc_xfail_cnt but not
>>>> ksft_test_result_xfail/ksft_test_result_xpass.
> 
> I proposed fixing that recently[1]. seccomp uses XFAIL for "I have
> detected you lack the config to test this, so I can't say it's working
> or not, because it only looks like a failure without the config."

Based on that description, the case sounds like it should be a skip.

Or if the entire test depends on the missing config then Bail out might
be appropriate.

> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200611224028.3275174-7-keescook@chromium.org/
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-19 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-10 18:11 RFC - kernel selftest result documentation (KTAP) Bird, Tim
2020-06-13  5:07 ` David Gow
2020-06-15 17:34   ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 20:03     ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-16 20:37       ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-17  0:02         ` Kees Cook
2020-06-19 19:32         ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-19 18:17       ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-14 18:17 ` Kees Cook
2020-06-15 17:45   ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-15 18:44     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-14 18:39 ` Kees Cook
2020-06-15 19:07   ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 12:08     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-16 16:42       ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 19:44         ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-16 20:30           ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 23:58           ` Kees Cook
2020-06-19 18:47             ` Frank Rowand [this message]
2020-06-19 19:11               ` Kees Cook
2020-06-19 22:58               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-20 14:51                 ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-19 18:33         ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-19 17:58       ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-20  6:44         ` David Gow
2020-06-20 15:03           ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-23  2:58             ` David Gow
2020-06-16 23:52     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-19 18:52       ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-19 19:50       ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-19 19:49     ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-16 20:48 ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-16 21:16   ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 21:19     ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-17  0:06     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-17  2:30       ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-17  3:36         ` Kees Cook
2020-06-17  4:05           ` David Gow
2020-06-19 19:44             ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-19 20:19             ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-19 23:47               ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-19 19:39     ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-19 17:13 ` Frank Rowand

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