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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
Cc: mike.kravetz@oracle.com, shuah@kernel.org, shakeelb@google.com,
	gthelen@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mkoutny@suse.com,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/8] hugetlb_cgroup: Add hugetlb_cgroup reservation counter
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 16:45:41 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2001131624240.164268@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191217231615.164161-1-almasrymina@google.com>

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, Mina Almasry wrote:

> These counters will track hugetlb reservations rather than hugetlb
> memory faulted in. This patch only adds the counter, following patches
> add the charging and uncharging of the counter.
> 
> This is patch 1 of an 8 patch series.
> 
> Problem:
> Currently tasks attempting to allocate more hugetlb memory than is available get
> a failure at mmap/shmget time. This is thanks to Hugetlbfs Reservations [1].
> However, if a task attempts to allocate hugetlb memory only more than its
> hugetlb_cgroup limit allows, the kernel will allow the mmap/shmget call,
> but will SIGBUS the task when it attempts to fault the memory in.
> 

I think it's subtle, but the use of the word "allocate" instead of using 
"reserve" might be confusing here.  Might want to reword it.

> We have developers interested in using hugetlb_cgroups, and they have expressed
> dissatisfaction regarding this behavior. We'd like to improve this
> behavior such that tasks violating the hugetlb_cgroup limits get an error on
> mmap/shmget time, rather than getting SIGBUS'd when they try to fault
> the excess memory in.
> 

I'm not sure the developers are interested in being restricted by 
hugetlb_cgroups :)  I think users get constrained by hugetlb_cgroup so the 
developers are interested in the failure more: do we want to SIGBUS at 
fault and not be allowed an opportunity to influence that (today) or do we 
want to fallback to non-hugetlbfs memory and just keep going (tomorrow, 
after your patchset).

> The underlying problem is that today's hugetlb_cgroup accounting happens
> at hugetlb memory *fault* time, rather than at *reservation* time.
> Thus, enforcing the hugetlb_cgroup limit only happens at fault time, and
> the offending task gets SIGBUS'd.
> 
> Proposed Solution:
> A new page counter named hugetlb.xMB.reservation_[limit|usage]_in_bytes. This
> counter has slightly different semantics than
> hugetlb.xMB.[limit|usage]_in_bytes:
> 

Is there a max_usage_in_bytes equivalent?  It's a page_counter so I assume 
it's easy to support.

I'll defer the naming to Mike here, "rsvd" seems to be the hugetlb way of 
saying "reserved".

> - While usage_in_bytes tracks all *faulted* hugetlb memory,
> reservation_usage_in_bytes tracks all *reserved* hugetlb memory and
> hugetlb memory faulted in without a prior reservation.
> 
> - If a task attempts to reserve more memory than limit_in_bytes allows,
> the kernel will allow it to do so. But if a task attempts to reserve
> more memory than reservation_limit_in_bytes, the kernel will fail this
> reservation.
> 
> This proposal is implemented in this patch series, with tests to verify
> functionality and show the usage. We also added cgroup-v2 support to
> hugetlb_cgroup so that the new use cases can be extended to v2.
> 
> Alternatives considered:
> 1. A new cgroup, instead of only a new page_counter attached to
>    the existing hugetlb_cgroup. Adding a new cgroup seemed like a lot of code
>    duplication with hugetlb_cgroup. Keeping hugetlb related page counters under
>    hugetlb_cgroup seemed cleaner as well.
> 
> 2. Instead of adding a new counter, we considered adding a sysctl that modifies
>    the behavior of hugetlb.xMB.[limit|usage]_in_bytes, to do accounting at
>    reservation time rather than fault time. Adding a new page_counter seems
>    better as userspace could, if it wants, choose to enforce different cgroups
>    differently: one via limit_in_bytes, and another via
>    reservation_limit_in_bytes. This could be very useful if you're
>    transitioning how hugetlb memory is partitioned on your system one
>    cgroup at a time, for example. Also, someone may find usage for both
>    limit_in_bytes and reservation_limit_in_bytes concurrently, and this
>    approach gives them the option to do so.
> 
> Testing:
> - Added tests passing.
> - Used libhugetlbfs for regression testing.
> 
> [1]: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/vm/hugetlbfs_reserv.html
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
> Acked-by: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>

      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-14  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-17 23:16 [PATCH v9 1/8] hugetlb_cgroup: Add hugetlb_cgroup reservation counter Mina Almasry
2019-12-17 23:16 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] hugetlb_cgroup: add interface for charge/uncharge hugetlb reservations Mina Almasry
2020-01-13 22:14   ` Mike Kravetz
2020-01-14  0:45     ` David Rientjes
2020-01-14 22:55     ` Mina Almasry
2019-12-17 23:16 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] hugetlb_cgroup: add reservation accounting for private mappings Mina Almasry
2020-01-14  0:55   ` Mike Kravetz
2020-01-14 22:52     ` Mina Almasry
2020-01-17 22:09       ` Mike Kravetz
2020-01-22 21:40         ` Mina Almasry
2019-12-17 23:16 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] hugetlb: disable region_add file_region coalescing Mina Almasry
2020-01-21 17:38   ` Mike Kravetz
2020-01-21 17:40     ` Mike Kravetz
2019-12-17 23:16 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] hugetlb_cgroup: add accounting for shared mappings Mina Almasry
2019-12-17 23:16 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] hugetlb_cgroup: support noreserve mappings Mina Almasry
2020-01-14  0:48   ` David Rientjes
2019-12-17 23:16 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] hugetlb_cgroup: Add hugetlb_cgroup reservation tests Mina Almasry
2019-12-17 23:16 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] hugetlb_cgroup: Add hugetlb_cgroup reservation docs Mina Almasry
2020-01-14  0:54   ` David Rientjes
2019-12-19  1:12 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] hugetlb_cgroup: Add hugetlb_cgroup reservation counter Andrew Morton
2019-12-19  1:37   ` Mike Kravetz
2019-12-19  1:59     ` Mina Almasry
2020-01-13 18:43 ` Mike Kravetz
2020-01-13 21:03   ` Mina Almasry
2020-01-13 22:05     ` Mike Kravetz
2020-01-13 22:21       ` Mina Almasry
2020-01-14  0:45 ` David Rientjes [this message]

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