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From: "Andi Kleen" <ak@suse.de>
To: Jan Niehusmann <list039@gondor.com>
Cc: dgould@suse.com, linux-lvm@msede.com
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] SuSE/LVM boot problem
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:40:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000531104012.A22383@gruyere.muc.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20000502232221.A20803@gondor.com>; from list039@gondor.com on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:22:21PM +0200

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:22:21PM +0200, Jan Niehusmann wrote:
> > On this topic, what is needed to make lvm work for both / and /boot with
> > full lilo support? I think it somewhat limits the utility of lvm not to
> > be able to make a fully lvm system, and might be tempted to do some of
> > the heavy lifting if it is not too gruesome.
> 
> As lilo doesn't parse filesystems, it has to know the sector numbers of
> the disk blocks that contain the kernel (and the second stage boot loader).
> 
> I can imagine two ways to make lilo work with lvm:
> 
> 1) at install time (when you run /sbin/lilo), lilo maps the logical (lvm)
> locations to physical locations and writes these to the boot block. The boot
> code doesn't need to be changed.

That's not very hard to do. You just need a FIPHYSBMAP ioctl. 

> 
> 2) lilo writes logical locations to the boot block (trivial). The boot
> code needs to understand lvm. 
> 
> Option 2 is probably very difficult to do, as it requires to implement 
> lvm handling in 16 bit code. Only read-only access is needed, but still,
> it's probably a major project.
> 
> Option 1 is way easier to implement, but has one big disadvantage: Whenever
> you move physical extents, you have to re-run lilo.
> 
> 
> Both ways, you may end up with the kernel (or parts of it) moved to
> a drive that's not accessible by lilo.  (while the 1024-cylinder-limit
> is gone, there are still drives that are accessible by linux but not by
> the bios, for example scsi drives on a controller without bios)

I would just add a ``bootable''/``non bootable'' attribute to a PV and a LV. 
When lilo runs it sets a ``bootable'' attribute on the LV, and when you try
to move a bootable LV onto a non bootable PV it complains. Not 100% bulletproof,
because it requires some user action to tag the PVs correctly, but better
than nothing.


-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-05-31  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-02  5:20 [linux-lvm] SuSE/LVM boot problem Marco Shaw
2020-11-27 16:17 ` Michael Marxmeier
2000-05-02 18:41   ` dgould
2000-05-02 21:22     ` Jan Niehusmann
2000-05-02 22:18       ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2000-05-03 10:05       ` Ulf Bartelt
2000-05-31  8:40       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2000-05-03  0:15     ` Marco Shaw
2000-05-03  7:38 Michael Marxmeier
2000-05-03 16:53 ` dgould
2000-05-31  9:01   ` Andi Kleen
2000-05-31 16:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2000-05-31 16:18       ` Andi Kleen
2000-05-31 18:25         ` Michael Marxmeier
2000-06-01 12:15           ` Ulf Bartelt
2000-06-01  9:01     ` David Gould
2000-05-03 18:09 Andreas Dilger
2000-05-03 21:01 ` Eric M. Hopper
2000-05-03 23:50 Andreas Dilger
2000-05-04  2:28 ` dgould
2000-05-04  5:21   ` Michael Loftis
2000-05-04  2:38 ` Eric M. Hopper
2000-05-04 12:18 Shaw, Marco

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