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From: Zdenek Kabelac <zdenek.kabelac@gmail.com>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>,
	David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
	Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.de>
Cc: Heming Zhao <heming.zhao@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] system boot time regression when using lvm2-2.03.05
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 22:38:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <665159ea-e617-5307-2dfe-bddc1b2fb7b0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190910152010.GA6789@redhat.com>

Dne 10. 09. 19 v 17:20 David Teigland napsal(a):
>>>> _pvscan_aa
>>>>    vgchange_activate
>>>>     _activate_lvs_in_vg
>>>>      sync_local_dev_names
>>>>       fs_unlock
>>>>        dm_udev_wait <=== this point!
>>>> ```
> 
>> Could you explain to us what's happening in this code? IIUC, an
>> incoming uevent triggers pvscan, which then possibly triggers VG
>> activation. That in turn would create more uevents. The pvscan process
>> then waits for uevents for the tree "root" of the activated LVs to be
>> processed.
>>
>> Can't we move this waiting logic out of the uevent handling? It seems
>> weird to me that a process that acts on a uevent waits for the
>> completion of another, later uevent. This is almost guaranteed to cause
>> delays during "uevent storms". Is it really necessary?
>>
>> Maybe we could create a separate service that would be responsible for
>> waiting for all these outstanding udev cookies?
> 
> Peter Rajnoha walked me through the details of this, and explained that a
> timeout as you describe looks quite possible given default timeouts, and
> that lvm doesn't really require that udev wait.
> 
> So, I pushed out this patch to allow pvscan with --noudevsync:
> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e5e7fd6c93517278b2451a08f47e16d052babbb
> 
> You'll want to add that option to lvm2-pvscan.service; we can hopefully
> update the service to use that if things look good from testing.

This is certainly a bug.

lvm2 surely does need to communication with udev for any activation.

We can't let running activation 'on-the-fly' without control on system with 
udev (so we do not issue 'remove' while there is still 'add' in progress)

Also any more complex target like thin-pool need to wait till metadata LV gets 
ready for thin-check.

Regards

Zdenek

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-10 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-29 13:52 [linux-lvm] system boot time regression when using lvm2-2.03.05 Heming Zhao
2019-08-29 14:37 ` David Teigland
2019-09-03  5:02   ` Heming Zhao
2019-09-03 15:17     ` David Teigland
2019-09-04  8:13       ` Heming Zhao
2019-09-05 12:35         ` Heming Zhao
2019-09-05 16:55           ` David Teigland
2019-09-06  4:31             ` Heming Zhao
2019-09-06  5:01               ` Heming Zhao
2019-09-06  6:51                 ` Martin Wilck
2019-09-06  8:46                   ` Heming Zhao
2019-09-06 14:15                     ` David Teigland
2019-09-06 14:26                     ` David Teigland
2019-09-06 14:03                   ` David Teigland
2019-09-09 11:42                     ` Heming Zhao
2019-09-09 14:09                       ` David Teigland
2019-09-10  8:01                         ` Martin Wilck
2019-09-10 15:20                           ` David Teigland
2019-09-10 20:38                             ` Zdenek Kabelac [this message]
2019-09-11  7:17                               ` Martin Wilck
2019-09-11  9:13                                 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2019-09-12 13:58                                   ` Martin Wilck

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