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From: Scott Mcdermott <scott@smemsh.net>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] when bringing dm-cache online, consumes all memory and reboots
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 15:02:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRKOwzT2qk_wWNo5m_ZeKa-S6ZoXSxPhJhQVGceNVDzmKu-GQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7931a754-cf8e-eb6c-adf1-d54784dbf73f@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 2:57 AM Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com> wrote:
> Dne 23. 03. 20 v 9:26 Joe Thornber napsal(a):
> > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 10:57:35AM -0700, Scott Mcdermott wrote:
> > > have a 931.5 GibiByte SSD pair in raid1 (mdraid) as cache LV for a
> > > data LV on 1.8 TebiByte raid1 (mdraid) pair of larger spinning disk.
>
> Users should be 'performing' some benchmarking about the 'useful' sizes of
> hotspot areas - using nearly 1T of cache for 1.8T of origin doesn't look
> the right ration for caching.
> (i.e. like if your CPU cache would be halve of your DRAM)

the 1.8T origin will be upgraded over time with larger/more spinning
disks, but the cache will remain as it is.  hopefully it can perform
well whether it is 1:2 cache:data as now or 1:10+ as later.

> Too big 'cache size' leads usually into way too big caching chunks
> (since we try to limit number of 'chunks' in cache to 1 milion  - you
> can rise up this limit - but it will consume a lot of your RAM space as well)
> So IMHO I'd recommend to use at most 512K chunks - which gives you
> about 256GiB of cache size -  but still users should be benchmarking what is
> the best for them...)

how to raise this limit? since I'm low RAM this is a problem, but why
are large chunks an issue, besides memory usage? is this causing
unnecessary I/O by an amplification effect? if my system doesn't have
enough memory for this job I will have to find a host board with more
RAM.

> Another hint - lvm2 introduced support for new dm-writecache target as well.

this won't work for me since a lot of my data is reads, and I'm low
memory with large numbers of files.  rsync of large trees is the main
workload; existing algorithm is not working fantastically well, but
nonetheless giving a nice boost to my rsync completion times over the
uncached times.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-23 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-22 17:57 [linux-lvm] when bringing dm-cache online, consumes all memory and reboots Scott Mcdermott
2020-03-23  8:26 ` Joe Thornber
2020-03-23  9:57   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2020-03-23 16:26     ` John Stoffel
2020-03-23 22:02     ` Scott Mcdermott [this message]
2020-03-24  9:43       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2020-03-24 11:37         ` Gionatan Danti
2020-03-24 15:09           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2020-03-24 22:35             ` Gionatan Danti
2020-03-25  8:55               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2020-03-23 21:35   ` Scott Mcdermott

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