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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Quentin Monnet <quentin.monnet@netronome.com>
Cc: daniel@iogearbox.net, ast@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	oss-drivers@netronome.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 8/8] bpf: add documentation for eBPF helpers (58-64)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 14:58:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180419145804.4cf56574@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62931080-6f69-3877-7a84-0df5be5754e6@netronome.com>

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:44:41 +0100
Quentin Monnet <quentin.monnet@netronome.com> wrote:

> 2018-04-18 17:43 UTC+0200 ~ Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
> > On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:09:41 +0100
> > Quentin Monnet <quentin.monnet@netronome.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> 2018-04-18 15:34 UTC+0200 ~ Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>  
> >>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:34:38 +0100
> >>> Quentin Monnet <quentin.monnet@netronome.com> wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
> >>>> index 350459c583de..3d329538498f 100644
> >>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
> >>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
> >>>> @@ -1276,6 +1276,50 @@ union bpf_attr {
> >>>>   * 	Return
> >>>>   * 		0 on success, or a negative error in case of failure.
> >>>>   *
> >>>> + * int bpf_redirect_map(struct bpf_map *map, u32 key, u64 flags)
> >>>> + * 	Description
> >>>> + * 		Redirect the packet to the endpoint referenced by *map* at
> >>>> + * 		index *key*. Depending on its type, his *map* can contain    
> >>>                                                     ^^^
> >>>
> >>> "his" -> "this"    
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>  
> >>>> + * 		references to net devices (for forwarding packets through other
> >>>> + * 		ports), or to CPUs (for redirecting XDP frames to another CPU;
> >>>> + * 		but this is only implemented for native XDP (with driver
> >>>> + * 		support) as of this writing).
> >>>> + *
> >>>> + * 		All values for *flags* are reserved for future usage, and must
> >>>> + * 		be left at zero.
> >>>> + * 	Return
> >>>> + * 		**XDP_REDIRECT** on success, or **XDP_ABORT** on error.
> >>>> + *    
> >>>
> >>> "XDP_ABORT" -> "XDP_ABORTED"    
> >>
> >> Ouch. And I did the same for bpf_redirect(). Thanks for the catch.
> >>  
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if it's worth mentioning in the doc/man-page; that for XDP
> >>> using bpf_redirect_map() is a HUGE performance advantage, compared to
> >>> the bpf_redirect() call ?    
> >>
> >> It seems worth to me. How would you simply explain the reason for this
> >> difference?  
> > 
> > The basic reason is "bulking effect", as devmap avoids the NIC
> > tailptr/doorbell update on every packet... how to write that in a doc
> > format?
> > 
> > I wrote about why XDP_REDIRECT with maps are smart here:
> >  http://vger.kernel.org/netconf2017_files/XDP_devel_update_NetConf2017_Seoul.pdf
> > 
> > Using maps for redirect, hopefully makes XDP_REDIRECT the last driver
> > XDP action code we need.  As new types of redirect can be introduced
> > without driver changes. See that AF_XDP also uses a map.
> > 
> > It is more subtle, but maps also function as a sorting step. Imagine
> > your XDP program need to redirect out different interfaces (or CPUs in
> > cpumap case), and packets arrive intermixed.  Packets get sorted into
> > the different map indexes, and the xdp_do_flush_map() will trigger the
> > flush operation.
> > 
> > 
> > Happened to have an i40e NIC benchmark setup, and ran a single flow pktgen test.
> > 
> > Results with 'xdp_redirect_map'
> >  13589297 pps (13,589,297) 
> > 
> > Results with 'xdp_redirect' NOT using devmap:
> >   7567575 pps (7,567,575)
> > 
> > Just to point out the performance benefit of devmap...  
> 
> 
> Thanks for those details! This is an impressive change in performance
> indeed.
> 
> I think I will just keep it simple for the documentation. I will add the
> following for bpf_redirect_map():
> 
>     When used to redirect packets to net devices, this helper
>     provides a high performance increase over **bpf_redirect**\ ().
>     This is due to various implementation details of the underlying
>     mechanisms, one of which is the fact that **bpf_redirect_map**\ ()
>     tries to send packet as a "bulk" to the device.
> 
> And also append the following to bpf_redirect():
> 
>     The same effect can be attained with the more generic
>     **bpf_redirect_map**\ (), which requires specific maps
>     to be used but offers better performance.

This sounds good to me! :-)

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

      reply	other threads:[~2018-04-19 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 14:34 [PATCH bpf-next v3 0/8] bpf: document eBPF helpers and add a script to generate man page Quentin Monnet
2018-04-17 14:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/8] bpf: add script and prepare bpf.h for new helpers documentation Quentin Monnet
2018-04-17 14:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 2/8] bpf: add documentation for eBPF helpers (01-11) Quentin Monnet
2018-04-18  1:04   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-04-19 10:02   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-04-17 14:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 3/8] bpf: add documentation for eBPF helpers (12-22) Quentin Monnet
2018-04-18 22:10   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-04-19 10:29   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-04-17 14:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 4/8] bpf: add documentation for eBPF helpers (23-32) Quentin Monnet
2018-04-18 22:11   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-04-19 11:16   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-04-20 18:54     ` Quentin Monnet
2018-04-23  9:11       ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-04-17 14:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 5/8] bpf: add documentation for eBPF helpers (33-41) Quentin Monnet
2018-04-18 22:23   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-04-19 12:27   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-04-17 14:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 6/8] bpf: add documentation for eBPF helpers (42-50) Quentin Monnet
2018-04-18 23:29   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-04-18 23:42   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-04-19 12:40   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-04-17 14:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 7/8] bpf: add documentation for eBPF helpers (51-57) Quentin Monnet
2018-04-17 17:51   ` Yonghong Song
2018-04-17 17:55   ` Andrey Ignatov
2018-04-19 12:47   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-04-17 14:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 8/8] bpf: add documentation for eBPF helpers (58-64) Quentin Monnet
2018-04-18 13:34   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-04-18 14:09     ` Quentin Monnet
2018-04-18 15:43       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-04-19 12:44         ` Quentin Monnet
2018-04-19 12:58           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]

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