On 1/19/23 22:00, Bastien Roucariès wrote: [...] >> > > I do not believe it is broken by design. It should be used with care and warning. > > BTW if we go to the anonymous union way could we add at the end a _null_reserved_field. It will help for unix socket and the infamous sun_path could not end with null... > May be it is too late from an ABI point of view, but for me the posix contract from an ABI point of view is that I said in the note sockaddr_storage could grow but not be reduced. Yes, many types have seen such additions at the end of it over time. In the Linux man-pages, I try to document all structures as "having at least these members", but may grow over time. > > struct sockaddr_storage { > union { > sa_family_t ss_family; > struct sockaddr sa; > struct sockaddr_in sin; > struct sockaddr_in6 sin6; > struct sockaddr_un sun; > }; > char __reserved_null; Such a field would make sense. In fact, I believe the Linux internal implementation of _un must have something similar, since it ensures null-termination even if the user passes a non-terminated string, IIRC. > }; > [...] >> This is compatible: >> >> - It had at least the `ss_family` field. It's still there, at the same binary >> location. >> - It has a size at least as large as any other sockaddr_* structure, and a >> suitable alignment. >> - Old code still works with it just fine. >> - New code will be able to avoid UB, and all casts, just by accessing the right >> structure element. >> - It's trivial to test at configure time if the implementation provides this >> new definition of the structure. > > I agree I could even add a macro for autoconf-archive (I am upstream) and post a patch for gnulib. Nice; since it's backwards compatible, I'll (probably) suggest a patch for glibc. > >>>> >>>>> +.I sockaddr_storage >>>>> +structure is large enough to hold any of the other >>>>> +.I sockaddr_* >>>>> +variants and always well aligned. On return, it should be cast to the correct >>>>> +.I sockaddr_* >>>> >>>> The fact that it is correctly aligned, and a cast will work most of the time, >>>> isn't enough for strict aliasing rules. The compiler is free to assume things, >>>> just by the fact that it's a different type. >>> >>> Ok any idea for writing this kind of stuff >> >> I'm thinking about writing something to several pages; will keep you all updated >> on important changes to the pages. > > Please exchange with me... It is really a pitffall for my student, so I could help here. Sure. Will do. Cheers, Alex > > Bastien >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alex >> >> -- >> >> > --