From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, oleksandr@redhat.com,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
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Sandeep Patil <sspatil@google.com>,
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Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
John Dias <joaodias@google.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com, sj38.park@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/7] mm: introduce external memory hinting API
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 13:40:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07109fb3-dcf3-0252-4515-7e476fadc259@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200310222008.GB72963@google.com>
On 3/10/20 11:20 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 07:15:10PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 3/2/20 8:36 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> > There is usecase that System Management Software(SMS) want to give
>> > a memory hint like MADV_[COLD|PAGEEOUT] to other processes and
>> > in the case of Android, it is the ActivityManagerService.
>> >
>> > It's similar in spirit to madvise(MADV_WONTNEED), but the information
>>
>> You mean MADV_DONTNEED?
>
> Mean to DONT_NEED's future version.
What's that exactly?
>>
>> > required to make the reclaim decision is not known to the app.
>>
>> This seems to be mixing up the differences between MADV_DONTNEED and
>> COLD/PAGEOUT and self-imposed vs external memory hints?
>
> Sorry, I don't understand what you want here.
You say that process_madvise(MADV_[COLD|PAGEEOUT]) is similar to
madvise(MADV_WONTNEED) but the difference is that the information
required to make the reclaim decision is not known to the app.
I see two differences. One is madvise vs process_madvise, which is explained by
"reclaim decision is not known to the app."
The other is MADV_WONTNEED vs MADV_[COLD|PAGEEOUT], which is... I'm not sure
until you say what's "DONT_NEED's future version" :D
Anyway I assume this part is from the versions where the new COLD and PAGEOUT
flags were introduced together with external memory hinting API?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-12 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-02 19:36 [PATCH v7 0/7] introduce memory hinting API for external process Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] mm: pass task and mm to do_madvise Minchan Kim
2020-03-05 15:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-08 18:21 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] mm: introduce external memory hinting API Minchan Kim
2020-03-03 10:33 ` kbuild test robot
2020-03-03 14:57 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-05 18:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-10 22:20 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-11 0:36 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-12 12:40 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2020-03-12 20:23 ` Minchan Kim
2020-05-08 18:33 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] mm: check fatal signal pending of target process Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 10:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-10 22:24 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] pid: move pidfd_get_pid function to pid.c Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 10:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-06 11:14 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] mm: support both pid and pidfd for process_madvise Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 11:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-11 0:42 ` Minchan Kim
2020-05-08 18:36 ` Minchan Kim
2020-05-08 23:04 ` Andrew Morton
2020-05-09 12:48 ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-09 23:14 ` Minchan Kim
2020-05-12 19:55 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] mm/madvise: employ mmget_still_valid for write lock Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 12:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-06 13:03 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-06 16:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-09 12:30 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-10 22:28 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] mm/madvise: allow KSM hints for remote API Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 13:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-06 13:41 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-06 16:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-09 13:11 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-09 15:08 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-09 15:19 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-09 15:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-09 16:03 ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-11 2:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 21:16 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] introduce memory hinting API for external process Andrew Morton
2020-03-02 21:42 ` Minchan Kim
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