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From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Bhupesh Sharma <bhsharma@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] kexec/memory_hotplug: Prevent removal and accidental use
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:42:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ee0556d-9903-1b17-8c58-e847f4c00816@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6725543d-81ee-537f-e132-ef26fe62c452@redhat.com>

Hi David,

On 3/27/20 9:27 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 26.03.20 19:07, James Morse wrote:
>> arm64 recently queued support for memory hotremove, which led to some
>> new corner cases for kexec.
>>
>> If the kexec segments are loaded for a removable region, that region may
>> be removed before kexec actually occurs. This causes the first kernel to
>> lockup when applying the relocations. (I've triggered this on x86 too).
>>
>> The first patch adds a memory notifier for kexec so that it can refuse
>> to allow in-use regions to be taken offline.

> IIRC other architectures handle that by setting the affected pages
> PageReserved. Any reason why to not stick to the same?

Hmm, I didn't spot this. How come core code doesn't do it if its needed?

Doesn't PG_Reserved prevent the page from being used for regular allocations?
(or is that only if its done early)

I prefer the runtime check as the dmesg output gives the user some chance of
knowing why their memory-offline failed, and doing something about it!


>> This doesn't solve the problem for arm64, where the new kernel must
>> initially rely on the data structures from the first boot to describe
>> memory. These don't describe hotpluggable memory.
>> If kexec places the kernel in one of these regions, it must also provide
>> a DT that describes the region in which the kernel was mapped as memory.
>> (and somehow ensure its always present in the future...)
>>
>> To prevent this from happening accidentally with unaware user-space,
>> patches two and three allow arm64 to give these regions a different
>> name.
>>
>> This is a change in behaviour for arm64 as memory hotadd and hotremove
>> were added separately.
>>
>>
>> I haven't tried kdump.
>> Unaware kdump from user-space probably won't describe the hotplug
>> regions if the name is different, which saves us from problems if
>> the memory is no longer present at kdump time, but means the vmcore
>> is incomplete.

> Whenever memory is added/removed, kdump.service is to be restarted from
> user space, which will fixup the data structures such that kdump will
> not try to dump unplugged memory.

Cunning.


> Also, makedumpfile will check if the
> sections are still around IIRC.

Curious. I thought the vmcore was virtually addressed, how does it know which
linear-map portions correspond to sysfs memory nodes with KASLR?


> Not sure what you mean by "Unaware kdump from user-space".

The existing kexec-tools binaries, that (I assume) don't go probing to find out
if 'System RAM' is removable or not, loading a kdump kernel, along with the
user-space generated blob that describes the first kernel's memory usage to the
second kernel.

'user-space' here to distinguish all this from kexec_file_load().



Thanks,

James


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-27 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-26 18:07 [PATCH 0/3] kexec/memory_hotplug: Prevent removal and accidental use James Morse
2020-03-26 18:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] kexec: Prevent removal of memory in use by a loaded kexec image James Morse
2020-03-27  0:43   ` Anshuman Khandual
2020-03-27  2:54     ` Baoquan He
2020-03-27 15:46     ` James Morse
2020-03-27  2:34   ` Baoquan He
2020-03-27  9:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-27 16:56     ` James Morse
2020-03-27 17:06       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-27 18:07         ` James Morse
2020-03-27 18:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-30 13:00             ` James Morse
2020-03-30 13:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-30 17:17                 ` James Morse
2020-03-30 18:14                   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-10 19:10                     ` Andrew Morton
2020-04-11  3:44                       ` Baoquan He
2020-04-11  9:30                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-04-11  9:58                           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-12  5:35                           ` Baoquan He
2020-04-12  8:08                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-04-12 19:52                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-12 20:37                                 ` Bhupesh SHARMA
2020-04-13  2:37                                 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-13 13:15                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-13 23:01                                     ` Andrew Morton
2020-04-14  6:13                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-14  6:40                                     ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14  6:51                                       ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14  8:00                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-14  9:22                                         ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14  9:37                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-14 14:39                                             ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14 14:49                                               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-15  2:35                                                 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-16 13:31                                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-16 14:02                                                     ` Baoquan He
2020-04-16 14:09                                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-16 14:36                                                         ` Baoquan He
2020-04-16 14:47                                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-21 13:29                                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-21 13:57                                                               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-21 13:59                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-21 14:30                                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-22  9:17                                                               ` Baoquan He
2020-04-22  9:24                                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-22  9:57                                                                   ` Baoquan He
2020-04-22 10:05                                                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-22 10:36                                                                       ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14  9:16                                     ` Dave Young
2020-04-14  9:38                                       ` Dave Young
2020-04-14  7:05                       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-14 16:55                         ` James Morse
2020-04-14 17:41                           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-15 20:33   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 12:28     ` James Morse
2020-04-22 15:25       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 16:40         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-23 16:29           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-24  7:39             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-24  7:41               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-01 16:55           ` James Morse
2020-03-26 18:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/memory_hotplug: Allow arch override of non boot memory resource names James Morse
2020-03-27  9:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-27 15:39     ` James Morse
2020-03-30 13:23       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-30 17:17         ` James Morse
2020-04-02  5:49   ` Dave Young
2020-04-02  6:12     ` piliu
2020-04-14 17:21       ` James Morse
2020-04-15 20:36   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 12:14     ` James Morse
2020-05-09  0:45   ` Andrew Morton
2020-05-11  8:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-26 18:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: memory: Give hotplug memory a different resource name James Morse
2020-03-30 19:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-15 20:37   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 12:14     ` James Morse
2020-03-27  2:11 ` [PATCH 0/3] kexec/memory_hotplug: Prevent removal and accidental use Baoquan He
2020-03-27 15:40   ` James Morse
2020-03-27  9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-27 15:42   ` James Morse [this message]
2020-03-30 13:18     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-30 13:55 ` Baoquan He
2020-03-30 17:17   ` James Morse
2020-03-31  3:46     ` Dave Young
2020-04-14 17:31       ` James Morse
2020-03-31  3:38 ` Dave Young
2020-04-15 20:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 12:14   ` James Morse
2020-04-22 13:04     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 15:40       ` James Morse

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