From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
Bhupesh Sharma <bhsharma@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] kexec/memory_hotplug: Prevent removal and accidental use
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:42:56 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ee0556d-9903-1b17-8c58-e847f4c00816@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6725543d-81ee-537f-e132-ef26fe62c452@redhat.com>
Hi David,
On 3/27/20 9:27 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 26.03.20 19:07, James Morse wrote:
>> arm64 recently queued support for memory hotremove, which led to some
>> new corner cases for kexec.
>>
>> If the kexec segments are loaded for a removable region, that region may
>> be removed before kexec actually occurs. This causes the first kernel to
>> lockup when applying the relocations. (I've triggered this on x86 too).
>>
>> The first patch adds a memory notifier for kexec so that it can refuse
>> to allow in-use regions to be taken offline.
> IIRC other architectures handle that by setting the affected pages
> PageReserved. Any reason why to not stick to the same?
Hmm, I didn't spot this. How come core code doesn't do it if its needed?
Doesn't PG_Reserved prevent the page from being used for regular allocations?
(or is that only if its done early)
I prefer the runtime check as the dmesg output gives the user some chance of
knowing why their memory-offline failed, and doing something about it!
>> This doesn't solve the problem for arm64, where the new kernel must
>> initially rely on the data structures from the first boot to describe
>> memory. These don't describe hotpluggable memory.
>> If kexec places the kernel in one of these regions, it must also provide
>> a DT that describes the region in which the kernel was mapped as memory.
>> (and somehow ensure its always present in the future...)
>>
>> To prevent this from happening accidentally with unaware user-space,
>> patches two and three allow arm64 to give these regions a different
>> name.
>>
>> This is a change in behaviour for arm64 as memory hotadd and hotremove
>> were added separately.
>>
>>
>> I haven't tried kdump.
>> Unaware kdump from user-space probably won't describe the hotplug
>> regions if the name is different, which saves us from problems if
>> the memory is no longer present at kdump time, but means the vmcore
>> is incomplete.
> Whenever memory is added/removed, kdump.service is to be restarted from
> user space, which will fixup the data structures such that kdump will
> not try to dump unplugged memory.
Cunning.
> Also, makedumpfile will check if the
> sections are still around IIRC.
Curious. I thought the vmcore was virtually addressed, how does it know which
linear-map portions correspond to sysfs memory nodes with KASLR?
> Not sure what you mean by "Unaware kdump from user-space".
The existing kexec-tools binaries, that (I assume) don't go probing to find out
if 'System RAM' is removable or not, loading a kdump kernel, along with the
user-space generated blob that describes the first kernel's memory usage to the
second kernel.
'user-space' here to distinguish all this from kexec_file_load().
Thanks,
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-27 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-26 18:07 [PATCH 0/3] kexec/memory_hotplug: Prevent removal and accidental use James Morse
2020-03-26 18:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] kexec: Prevent removal of memory in use by a loaded kexec image James Morse
2020-03-27 0:43 ` Anshuman Khandual
2020-03-27 2:54 ` Baoquan He
2020-03-27 15:46 ` James Morse
2020-03-27 2:34 ` Baoquan He
2020-03-27 9:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-27 16:56 ` James Morse
2020-03-27 17:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-27 18:07 ` James Morse
2020-03-27 18:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-30 13:00 ` James Morse
2020-03-30 13:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-30 17:17 ` James Morse
2020-03-30 18:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-10 19:10 ` Andrew Morton
2020-04-11 3:44 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-11 9:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-04-11 9:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-12 5:35 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-12 8:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-04-12 19:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-12 20:37 ` Bhupesh SHARMA
2020-04-13 2:37 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-13 13:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-13 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2020-04-14 6:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-14 6:40 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14 6:51 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-14 9:22 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14 9:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-14 14:39 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14 14:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-15 2:35 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-16 13:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-16 14:02 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-16 14:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-16 14:36 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-16 14:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-21 13:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-21 13:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-21 13:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-21 14:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-22 9:17 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-22 9:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-22 9:57 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-22 10:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-22 10:36 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-14 9:16 ` Dave Young
2020-04-14 9:38 ` Dave Young
2020-04-14 7:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-14 16:55 ` James Morse
2020-04-14 17:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-15 20:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 12:28 ` James Morse
2020-04-22 15:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 16:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-23 16:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-24 7:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-24 7:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-01 16:55 ` James Morse
2020-03-26 18:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/memory_hotplug: Allow arch override of non boot memory resource names James Morse
2020-03-27 9:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-27 15:39 ` James Morse
2020-03-30 13:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-30 17:17 ` James Morse
2020-04-02 5:49 ` Dave Young
2020-04-02 6:12 ` piliu
2020-04-14 17:21 ` James Morse
2020-04-15 20:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 12:14 ` James Morse
2020-05-09 0:45 ` Andrew Morton
2020-05-11 8:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-26 18:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: memory: Give hotplug memory a different resource name James Morse
2020-03-30 19:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-15 20:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 12:14 ` James Morse
2020-03-27 2:11 ` [PATCH 0/3] kexec/memory_hotplug: Prevent removal and accidental use Baoquan He
2020-03-27 15:40 ` James Morse
2020-03-27 9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-27 15:42 ` James Morse [this message]
2020-03-30 13:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-30 13:55 ` Baoquan He
2020-03-30 17:17 ` James Morse
2020-03-31 3:46 ` Dave Young
2020-04-14 17:31 ` James Morse
2020-03-31 3:38 ` Dave Young
2020-04-15 20:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 12:14 ` James Morse
2020-04-22 13:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-22 15:40 ` James Morse
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