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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, vmscan: do not loop on too_many_isolated for ever
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:56:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170720065625.GB9058@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170719152014.53a861c57bcb636d6cd9d002@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed 19-07-17 15:20:14, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:48:42 +0200 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > 
> > Tetsuo Handa has reported [1][2][3]that direct reclaimers might get stuck
> > in too_many_isolated loop basically for ever because the last few pages
> > on the LRU lists are isolated by the kswapd which is stuck on fs locks
> > when doing the pageout or slab reclaim. This in turn means that there is
> > nobody to actually trigger the oom killer and the system is basically
> > unusable.
> > 
> > too_many_isolated has been introduced by 35cd78156c49 ("vmscan: throttle
> > direct reclaim when too many pages are isolated already") to prevent
> > from pre-mature oom killer invocations because back then no reclaim
> > progress could indeed trigger the OOM killer too early. But since the
> > oom detection rework 0a0337e0d1d1 ("mm, oom: rework oom detection")
> > the allocation/reclaim retry loop considers all the reclaimable pages
> > and throttles the allocation at that layer so we can loosen the direct
> > reclaim throttling.
> > 
> > Make shrink_inactive_list loop over too_many_isolated bounded and returns
> > immediately when the situation hasn't resolved after the first sleep.
> > Replace congestion_wait by a simple schedule_timeout_interruptible because
> > we are not really waiting on the IO congestion in this path.
> > 
> > Please note that this patch can theoretically cause the OOM killer to
> > trigger earlier while there are many pages isolated for the reclaim
> > which makes progress only very slowly. This would be obvious from the oom
> > report as the number of isolated pages are printed there. If we ever hit
> > this should_reclaim_retry should consider those numbers in the evaluation
> > in one way or another.
> 
> Need to figure out which kernels to patch.  Maybe just 4.13-rc after a
> week or two?

I do not think we need to rush it and the next merge window should be
just OK.

> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -1713,9 +1713,15 @@ shrink_inactive_list(unsigned long nr_to_scan, struct lruvec *lruvec,
> >  	int file = is_file_lru(lru);
> >  	struct pglist_data *pgdat = lruvec_pgdat(lruvec);
> >  	struct zone_reclaim_stat *reclaim_stat = &lruvec->reclaim_stat;
> > +	bool stalled = false;
> >  
> >  	while (unlikely(too_many_isolated(pgdat, file, sc))) {
> > -		congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> > +		if (stalled)
> > +			return 0;
> > +
> > +		/* wait a bit for the reclaimer. */
> > +		schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ/10);
> 
> a) if this task has signal_pending(), this falls straight through
>    and I suspect the code breaks?

It will not break. It will return to the allocation path more quickly
but no over-reclaim will happen and it will/should get throttled there.
So nothing critical.

> b) replacing congestion_wait() with schedule_timeout_interruptible()
>    means this task no longer contributes to load average here and it's
>    a (slightly) user-visible change.

you are right. I am not sure it matters but it might be visible.
 
> c) msleep_interruptible() is nicer
> 
> d) IOW, methinks we should be using msleep() here?

OK, I do not have objections. Are you going to squash this in or want a
separate patch explaining all the above?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-20  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-10  7:48 [PATCH] mm, vmscan: do not loop on too_many_isolated for ever Michal Hocko
2017-07-10 13:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-10 13:58 ` Rik van Riel
2017-07-10 16:58   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-10 17:09     ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-19 22:20 ` Andrew Morton
2017-07-20  6:56   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-07-21 23:01     ` Andrew Morton
2017-07-24  6:50       ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-20  1:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2017-07-20 10:44   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-24  7:01     ` Hugh Dickins
2017-07-24 11:12       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-20 13:22   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-24  7:03     ` Hugh Dickins
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-03-07 13:30 Michal Hocko
2017-03-07 19:52 ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-08  9:21   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-08 15:54     ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-09  9:12       ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-09 14:16         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-09 14:59           ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-09 18:05   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-03-09 22:18     ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-10 10:27       ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-10 10:20     ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-10 11:44       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-21 10:37         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-23 10:24         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-24 12:39           ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2017-04-24 13:06             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-25  6:33               ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2017-06-30  0:14         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-30 13:32           ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-30 15:59             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-30 16:19               ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-01 11:43                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-05  8:19                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-05  8:20                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-06 10:48                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-09 14:31 ` Mel Gorman

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