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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: SeongJae Park <sj38.park@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Re: Splitting the mmap_sem
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 21:55:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200206205529.GZ14914@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200206201536.GX8731@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 12:15:36PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 02:59:20PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > The proposal consists of three phases.  In phase 1, we convert the
> > > rbtree to the maple tree, and leave the locking alone.  In phase 2,
> > > we change the locking to a per-VMA refcount, looked up under RCU.
> > > 
> > > This problem arises during phase 3 where we attempt to handle page
> > > faults entirely under the RCU read lock.  If we encounter problems,
> > > we can fall back to acquiring the VMA refcount, but we need the
> > > page allocation to fail rather than sleep (or magically drop the
> > > RCU lock and return an indication that it has done so, but that
> > > doesn't seem to be an approach that would find any favour).
> > 
> > So why not use SRCU? You can do full blocking faults under SRCU and
> > don't need no 'stinkin' refcounts ;-)
> 
> I have to say, SRCU is not in my mental toolbox of "how to solve a
> problem", so it simply hadn't occurred to me.  Thanks.
> 
> So, we'd DEFINE_SRCU(vma_srcu); in mm/memory.c
> 
> then, at the beginning of a page fault call srcu_read_lock(&vma_srcu);
> walk the tree as we do now, allocate memory for PTEs, sleep waiting for
> pages to arrive back from disc, etc, etc, then at the end of the fault,
> call srcu_read_unlock(&vma_srcu). 

So far so good,...

> munmap() would consist of removing the
> VMA from the tree, then calling synchronize_srcu() to wait for all faults
> to finish, then putting the backing file, etc, etc and freeing the VMA.

call_srcu(), and the (s)rcu callback will then fput() and such things
more.

synchronize_srcu() (like synchronize_rcu()) is stupid slow and would
make munmap()/exit()/etc.. unusable.

> This seems pretty reasonable, and investigation could actually proceed
> before the Maple tree work lands.  Today, that would be:
> 
> srcu_read_lock(&vmas_srcu);
> down_read(&mm->mmap_sem);
> find_vma(mm, address);
> up_read(&mm->mmap_sem);
> ... rest of fault handler path ...
> srcu_read_unlock(&vmas_srcu);
> 
> Kind of a pain because we still call find_vma() in the per-arch page
> fault handler, but for prototyping, we'd only have to do one or two
> architectures.

If you look at the earlier speculative page-fault patches by Laurent,
which were based on my still earlier patches, you'll find most of this
there.

The tricky bit was validating everything on the second page-table walk,
so see if nothing had fundamentally changed, specifically the VMA,
before installing the PTE. If you do this without mmap_sem, you need to
hold ptlock to pin stuff while validating everything you did earlier.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-06 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-03 22:21 Splitting the mmap_sem Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-05 17:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-06  5:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-06 17:30     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-09  3:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-09 14:17         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-10 15:26   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-12-10 16:07     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-10 18:09       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-12-12 14:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-12 15:40   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12 15:46     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-13 14:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-13 18:06         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-13 18:21           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-06 22:09     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-07 12:34       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-07 13:54         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-07 14:27           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-09 13:56             ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-01-09 17:03               ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 17:07                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 17:32                   ` SeongJae Park
2020-01-09 20:13                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-06 13:59                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-06 20:15                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-06 20:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-02-06 21:20                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-07  8:52                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-10 22:00                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19 17:14                                 ` Laurent Dufour

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