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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Cc: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, joro@8bytes.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com,
	christian.koenig@amd.com, yi.l.liu@intel.com,
	zhangfei.gao@linaro.org,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/26] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 10:57:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200228145718.GR31668@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200228144007.GB2156@myrica>

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 03:40:07PM +0100, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> > > Device
> > > + * 00:00.0 accesses address spaces X and Y, each corresponding to an
> > > mm_struct.
> > > + * Devices 00:01.* only access address space Y. In addition each
> > > + * IOMMU_DOMAIN_DMA domain has a private address space, io_pgtable,
> > > that is
> > > + * managed with iommu_map()/iommu_unmap(), and isn't shared with the
> > > CPU MMU.
> > So this would allow IOVA and SVA co-exist in the same address space?
> 
> Hmm, not in the same address space, but they can co-exist in a device. In
> fact the endpoint I'm testing (hisi zip accelerator) already needs normal
> DMA alongside SVA for queue management. This one is integrated on an
> Arm-based platform so shouldn't be a concern for VT-d at the moment, but
> I suspect we might see more of this kind of device with mixed DMA.

Probably the most interesting usecases for PASID definately require
this, so this is more than a "suspect we might see"

We want to see the privileged kernel control the general behavior of
the PCI function and delegate only some DMAs to PASIDs associated with
the user mm_struct. The device is always trusted the label its DMA
properly.

These programming models are already being used for years now with the
opencapi implementation.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-28 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-24 18:23 [PATCH v4 00/26] iommu: Shared Virtual Addressing and SMMUv3 support Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 01/26] mm/mmu_notifiers: pass private data down to alloc_notifier() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 19:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-25  9:24     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-25 14:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-28 14:39         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-28 14:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-28 15:04             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-28 15:13               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-03-06  9:56                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-03-06 13:09                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-03-06 14:35                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-03-06 14:52                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-03-06 16:15                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-03-06 17:42                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-03-13 18:49                             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-03-13 19:13                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-03-16 15:46                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-17 18:40                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-03-05 16:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 02/26] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-26 12:35   ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-02-28 14:43     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-28 16:26       ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-02-26 19:13   ` Jacob Pan
2020-02-28 14:40     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-28 14:57       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 03/26] iommu: Add a page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-25  3:30   ` Xu Zaibo
2020-02-25  9:25     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-26  3:05       ` Xu Zaibo
2020-02-26 13:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-02-28 14:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 04/26] iommu/sva: Search mm by PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 05/26] iommu/iopf: Handle mm faults Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 06/26] iommu/sva: Register page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-26 19:39   ` Jacob Pan
2020-02-28 14:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 07/26] arm64: mm: Pin down ASIDs for sharing mm with devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-27 17:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-03-04 14:10     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 08/26] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Move some definitions to a header Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 09/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Manage ASIDs with xarray Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 10/26] arm64: cpufeature: Export symbol read_sanitised_ftr_reg() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 11/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Share process page tables Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 12/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Seize private ASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 13/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for VHE Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 14/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable broadcast TLB maintenance Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 15/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add SVA feature checking Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 16/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add dev_to_master() helper Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 17/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement mm operations Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 18/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Hook up ATC invalidation to mm ops Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 19/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Hardware Translation Table Update Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 20/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Maintain a SID->device structure Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 21/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Ratelimit event dump Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-05-28  8:09   ` Aaro Koskinen
2021-05-28 16:25     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 22/26] dt-bindings: document stall property for IOMMU masters Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 23/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add stall support for platform devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-26  8:44   ` Xu Zaibo
2020-03-04 14:09     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-27 18:17   ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-03-04 14:08     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-03-09 10:48       ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-02-24 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 24/26] PCI/ATS: Add PRI stubs Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-27 20:55   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-02-24 18:24 ` [PATCH v4 25/26] PCI/ATS: Export symbols of PRI functions Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-27 20:55   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-02-24 18:24 ` [PATCH v4 26/26] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PRI Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-02-27 18:22 ` [PATCH v4 00/26] iommu: Shared Virtual Addressing and SMMUv3 support Jonathan Cameron

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