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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] mm: proc: Invalidate TLB after clearing soft-dirty page state
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 18:23:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201123182339.GB11688@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201120152731.GK3021@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 04:27:31PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 03:15:24PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 04:00:23PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:35:55PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > Since commit 0758cd830494 ("asm-generic/tlb: avoid potential double flush"),
> > > > TLB invalidation is elided in tlb_finish_mmu() if no entries were batched
> > > > via the tlb_remove_*() functions. Consequently, the page-table modifications
> > > > performed by clear_refs_write() in response to a write to
> > > > /proc/<pid>/clear_refs do not perform TLB invalidation. Although this is
> > > > fine when simply aging the ptes, in the case of clearing the "soft-dirty"
> > > > state we can end up with entries where pte_write() is false, yet a
> > > > writable mapping remains in the TLB.
> > > > 
> > > > Fix this by calling tlb_remove_tlb_entry() for each entry being
> > > > write-protected when cleating soft-dirty.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > @@ -1053,6 +1054,7 @@ static inline void clear_soft_dirty(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> > > >  		ptent = pte_wrprotect(old_pte);
> > > >  		ptent = pte_clear_soft_dirty(ptent);
> > > >  		ptep_modify_prot_commit(vma, addr, pte, old_pte, ptent);
> > > > +		tlb_remove_tlb_entry(tlb, pte, addr);
> > > >  	} else if (is_swap_pte(ptent)) {
> > > >  		ptent = pte_swp_clear_soft_dirty(ptent);
> > > >  		set_pte_at(vma->vm_mm, addr, pte, ptent);
> > > 
> > > Oh!
> > > 
> > > Yesterday when you had me look at this code; I figured the sane thing
> > > to do was to make it look more like mprotect().
> > 
> > Ah, so you mean ditch the mmu_gather altogether?
> 
> Yes. Alternatively, if we decide mmu_gather is 'right', then we should
> probably look at converting mprotect().
> 
> That is, I see no reason why this and mprotect should differ on this
> point.

I agree that we should aim for consistency, but it's worth pointing out
that madvise() uses the gather API in the same way that I'm proposing
here (see MADV_COLD/MADV_PAGEOUT).

Another thing to keep in mind is that, unlike mprotect(), we do actually
want to elide the TLB invalidation clear_refs_write() when all we're
doing is making the pages old. The gather API lends itself quite nicely
to this, as we can only update the range when actually doing the write
protection on the soft-dirty path.

> > > Why did you chose to make it work with mmu_gather instead? I'll grant
> > > you that it's probably the smaller patch, but I still think it's weird
> > > to use mmu_gather here.
> > > 
> > > Also, is tlb_remote_tlb_entry() actually correct? If you look at
> > > __tlb_remove_tlb_entry() you'll find that Power-Hash-32 will clear the
> > > entry, which might not be what we want here, we want to update the
> > > entrty.
> > 
> > Hmm, I didn't spot that, although ptep_modify_prot_start() does actually
> > clear the pte so we could just move this up a few lines.
> 
> Yes, but hash-entry != pte. If I'm not mistaken (and I could very well
> be, it's Friday and Power-MMUs being the maze they are), the end result
> here is an updated PTE but an empty hash-entry.

I had a look at the PPC code and, afaict, this should be fine. The next
access will fault, and we'll populate the hash entry from the pte afaict.

Am I missing something?

If we _really_ wanted to, then we could extend the mmu gather API to add
something like tlb_update_tlb_entry(), which would call
tlb_remove_tlb_entry() under the hood, and set a flag on the gather
structure so that tlb_finish_mmu() ends up calling update_mmu_cache() to
preload the hash.

However, I think this is purely a performance thing, and I'm wary about
pro-actively extending the API to optimise for the PPC hash.

Will


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-23 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-20 14:35 [PATCH 0/6] tlb: Fix access and (soft-)dirty bit management Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 1/6] arm64: pgtable: Fix pte_accessible() Will Deacon
2020-11-20 16:03   ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-20 19:53   ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 13:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-24 10:02   ` Anshuman Khandual
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 2/6] arm64: pgtable: Ensure dirty bit is preserved across pte_wrprotect() Will Deacon
2020-11-20 17:09   ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-23 14:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23 14:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 3/6] tlb: mmu_gather: Remove unused start/end arguments from tlb_finish_mmu() Will Deacon
2020-11-20 17:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-23 16:48     ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: proc: Invalidate TLB after clearing soft-dirty page state Will Deacon
2020-11-20 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20 15:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20 15:15     ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 15:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-23 18:23         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-11-20 15:55     ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-23 18:41       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-25 22:51         ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-20 20:22   ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-21  2:49     ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 19:21       ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 22:04       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 5/6] tlb: mmu_gather: Introduce tlb_gather_mmu_fullmm() Will Deacon
2020-11-20 17:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-23 16:48       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-22 15:11   ` [tlb] e242a269fa: WARNING:at_mm/mmu_gather.c:#tlb_gather_mmu kernel test robot
2020-11-23 17:51     ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: proc: Avoid fullmm flush for young/dirty bit toggling Will Deacon
2020-11-20 17:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 20:40   ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 18:35     ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 20:04       ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 21:17         ` Will Deacon
2020-11-24  1:13           ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-24 14:31             ` Will Deacon
2020-11-25 22:01             ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-24 14:46     ` Peter Zijlstra

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