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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 05/13] mm/numa: automatically generate node migration order
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 11:13:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <317d4c23-76a7-b653-87a4-bab642fa1717@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHbLzkoB98YY0amBWTGcDPStcy1c35CC8D5MPMbVxzRKqVA0Cg@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/29/21 12:46 PM, Yang Shi wrote:
...
>>  int next_demotion_node(int node)
>>  {
>> -       return node_demotion[node];
>> +       /*
>> +        * node_demotion[] is updated without excluding
>> +        * this function from running.  READ_ONCE() avoids
>> +        * reading multiple, inconsistent 'node' values
>> +        * during an update.
>> +        */
> 
> Don't we need a smp_rmb() here? The single write barrier might be not
> enough in migration target set. Typically a write barrier should be
> used in pairs with a read barrier.

I don't think we need one, practically.

Since there is no locking against node_demotion[] updates, although a
smp_rmb() would ensure that this read is up-to-date, it could change
freely after the smp_rmb().

In other words, smp_rmb() would shrink the window where a "stale" read
could occur but would not eliminate it.

>> +       return READ_ONCE(node_demotion[node]);
> 
> Why not consolidate the patch #4 in this patch? The patch #4 just add
> the definition of node_demotion and the function, then the function is
> changed in this patch, and the function is not used by anyone between
> the adding and changing.

I really wanted to highlight that the locking scheme and the READ_ONCE()
(or lack thereof) was specifically due to how node_demotion[] was being
updated.

The READ_ONCE() is not, for instance, inherent to the data structure.

...
>> +/*
>> + * When memory fills up on a node, memory contents can be
>> + * automatically migrated to another node instead of
>> + * discarded at reclaim.
>> + *
>> + * Establish a "migration path" which will start at nodes
>> + * with CPUs and will follow the priorities used to build the
>> + * page allocator zonelists.
>> + *
>> + * The difference here is that cycles must be avoided.  If
>> + * node0 migrates to node1, then neither node1, nor anything
>> + * node1 migrates to can migrate to node0.
>> + *
>> + * This function can run simultaneously with readers of
>> + * node_demotion[].  However, it can not run simultaneously
>> + * with itself.  Exclusion is provided by memory hotplug events
>> + * being single-threaded.
> 
> Maybe an example diagram for the physical topology and how the
> migration target is generated in the comment seems helpful to
> understand the code.

Sure.  Were you thinking of a code comment, or enhanced changelog?

Let's say there's a system with two sockets each with the same three
classes of memory: fast, medium and slow.  Each memory class is placed
in its own NUMA node and the CPUs are attached to the fast memory.  That
leaves 6 NUMA nodes (0-5):

	Socket A: 0, 1, 2
	Socket B: 3, 4, 5

The migration path for this configuration path would start on the nodes
with the processors and fast memory, progress through medium and end
with the slow memory:

	0 -> 1 -> 2 -> stop
	3 -> 4 -> 5 -> stop

This is represented in the node_demotion[] like this:

	{  1, // Node 0 migrates to 1
	   2, // Node 1 migrates to 2
	  -1, // Node 2 does not migrate
	   4, // Node 3 migrates to 1
	   5, // Node 4 migrates to 2
	  -1} // Node 5 does not migrate

Is that what you were thinking of?

...
>> +again:
>> +       this_pass = next_pass;
>> +       next_pass = NODE_MASK_NONE;
>> +       /*
>> +        * To avoid cycles in the migration "graph", ensure
>> +        * that migration sources are not future targets by
>> +        * setting them in 'used_targets'.  Do this only
>> +        * once per pass so that multiple source nodes can
>> +        * share a target node.
>> +        *
>> +        * 'used_targets' will become unavailable in future
>> +        * passes.  This limits some opportunities for
>> +        * multiple source nodes to share a desintation.
> 
> s/desination/destination

Fixed, thanks.

>> +        */
>> +       nodes_or(used_targets, used_targets, this_pass);
>> +       for_each_node_mask(node, this_pass) {
>> +               int target_node = establish_migrate_target(node, &used_targets);
>> +
>> +               if (target_node == NUMA_NO_NODE)
>> +                       continue;
>> +
>> +               /* Visit targets from this pass in the next pass: */
>> +               node_set(target_node, next_pass);
>> +       }
>> +       /* Is another pass necessary? */
>> +       if (!nodes_empty(next_pass))
>> +               goto again;
>> +}
>> +
>> +void set_migration_target_nodes(void)
> 
> It seems this function is not called outside migrate.c, so it should be static.

Fixed, thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-01 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-26  0:34 [RFC][PATCH 00/13] [v5] Migrate Pages in lieu of discard Dave Hansen
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/13] mm/vmscan: restore zone_reclaim_mode ABI Dave Hansen
2021-02-10  9:42   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/13] mm/vmscan: move RECLAIM* bits to uapi header Dave Hansen
2021-02-10  9:44   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/13] mm/vmscan: replace implicit RECLAIM_ZONE checks with explicit checks Dave Hansen
2021-01-31  1:10   ` David Rientjes
2021-02-10  9:54   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/13] mm/numa: node demotion data structure and lookup Dave Hansen
2021-01-31  1:19   ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 17:49     ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/13] mm/numa: automatically generate node migration order Dave Hansen
2021-01-29 20:46   ` Yang Shi
2021-02-01 19:13     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2021-02-02 11:43       ` Oscar Salvador
2021-02-02 17:46       ` Yang Shi
2021-02-03  0:43         ` Dave Hansen
2021-02-04  0:26           ` Yang Shi
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/13] mm/migrate: update migration order during on hotplug events Dave Hansen
2021-01-29 20:59   ` Yang Shi
2021-02-02 11:42   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-02-09 23:45     ` Dave Hansen
2021-02-10  8:55       ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/13] mm/migrate: make migrate_pages() return nr_succeeded Dave Hansen
2021-01-29 21:04   ` Yang Shi
2021-02-09 23:41     ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/13] mm/migrate: demote pages during reclaim Dave Hansen
2021-02-02 11:55   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-02-02 22:45     ` Yang Shi
2021-02-02 22:56       ` Dave Hansen
2021-02-02 18:22   ` Yang Shi
2021-02-02 18:34     ` Dave Hansen
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/13] mm/vmscan: add page demotion counter Dave Hansen
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/13] mm/vmscan: add helper for querying ability to age anonymous pages Dave Hansen
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/13] mm/vmscan: Consider anonymous pages without swap Dave Hansen
2021-02-02 18:56   ` Yang Shi
2021-02-02 21:35     ` Dave Hansen
2021-02-02 22:35       ` Yang Shi
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/13] mm/vmscan: never demote for memcg reclaim Dave Hansen
2021-01-26  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/13] mm/migrate: new zone_reclaim_mode to enable reclaim migration Dave Hansen
2021-01-31  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/13] [v5] Migrate Pages in lieu of discard David Rientjes

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