From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, david@redhat.com, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
aarcange@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
liliang.opensource@gmail.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, quan.xu@aliyun.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 5/8] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_SG
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:48:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59781119.8010200@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170723044036-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On 07/23/2017 09:45 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 03:12:43PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>> On 07/14/2017 04:19 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 03:42:35PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>>> On 07/12/2017 09:56 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>> So the way I see it, there are several issues:
>>>>>
>>>>> - internal wait - forces multiple APIs like kick/kick_sync
>>>>> note how kick_sync can fail but your code never checks return code
>>>>> - need to re-write the last descriptor - might not work
>>>>> for alternative layouts which always expose descriptors
>>>>> immediately
>>>> Probably it wasn't clear. Please let me explain the two functions here:
>>>>
>>>> 1) virtqueue_add_chain_desc(vq, head_id, prev_id,..):
>>>> grabs a desc from the vq and inserts it to the chain tail (which is indexed
>>>> by
>>>> prev_id, probably better to call it tail_id). Then, the new added desc
>>>> becomes
>>>> the tail (i.e. the last desc). The _F_NEXT flag is cleared for each desc
>>>> when it's
>>>> added to the chain, and set when another desc comes to follow later.
>>> And this only works if there are multiple rings like
>>> avail + descriptor ring.
>>> It won't work e.g. with the proposed new layout where
>>> writing out a descriptor exposes it immediately.
>> I think it can support the 1.1 proposal, too. But before getting
>> into that, I think we first need to deep dive into the implementation
>> and usage of _first/next/last. The usage would need to lock the vq
>> from the first to the end (otherwise, the returned info about the number
>> of available desc in the vq, i.e. num_free, would be invalid):
>>
>> lock(vq);
>> add_first();
>> add_next();
>> add_last();
>> unlock(vq);
>>
>> However, I think the case isn't this simple, since we need to check more
>> things
>> after each add_xx() step. For example, if only one entry is available at the
>> time
>> we start to use the vq, that is, num_free is 0 after add_first(), we
>> wouldn't be
>> able to add_next and add_last. So, it would work like this:
>>
>> start:
>> ...get free page block..
>> lock(vq)
>> retry:
>> ret = add_first(..,&num_free,);
>> if(ret == -ENOSPC) {
>> goto retry;
>> } else if (!num_free) {
>> add_chain_head();
>> unlock(vq);
>> kick & wait;
>> goto start;
>> }
>> next_one:
>> ...get free page block..
>> add_next(..,&num_free,);
>> if (!num_free) {
>> add_chain_head();
>> unlock(vq);
>> kick & wait;
>> goto start;
>> } if (num_free == 1) {
>> ...get free page block..
>> add_last(..);
>> unlock(vq);
>> kick & wait;
>> goto start;
>> } else {
>> goto next_one;
>> }
>>
>> The above seems unnecessary to me to have three different APIs.
>> That's the reason to combine them into one virtqueue_add_chain_desc().
>>
>> -- or, do you have a different thought about using the three APIs?
>>
>>
>> Implementation Reference:
>>
>> struct desc_iterator {
>> unsigned int head;
>> unsigned int tail;
>> };
>>
>> add_first(*vq, *desc_iterator, *num_free, ..)
>> {
>> if (vq->vq.num_free < 1)
>> return -ENOSPC;
>> get_desc(&desc_id);
>> desc[desc_id].flag &= ~_F_NEXT;
>> desc_iterator->head = desc_id
>> desc_iterator->tail = desc_iterator->head;
>> *num_free = vq->vq.num_free;
>> }
>>
>> add_next(vq, desc_iterator, *num_free,..)
>> {
>> get_desc(&desc_id);
>> desc[desc_id].flag &= ~_F_NEXT;
>> desc[desc_iterator.tail].next = desc_id;
>> desc[desc_iterator->tail].flag |= _F_NEXT;
>> desc_iterator->tail = desc_id;
>> *num_free = vq->vq.num_free;
>> }
>>
>> add_last(vq, desc_iterator,..)
>> {
>> get_desc(&desc_id);
>> desc[desc_id].flag &= ~_F_NEXT;
>> desc[desc_iterator.tail].next = desc_id;
>> desc_iterator->tail = desc_id;
>>
>> add_chain_head(); // put the desc_iterator.head to the ring
>> }
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Wei
> OK I thought this over. While we might need these new APIs in
> the future, I think that at the moment, there's a way to implement
> this feature that is significantly simpler. Just add each s/g
> as a separate input buffer.
Should it be an output buffer? I think output means from the
driver to device (i.e. DMA_TO_DEVICE).
>
> This needs zero new APIs.
>
> I know that follow-up patches need to add a header in front
> so you might be thinking: how am I going to add this
> header? The answer is quite simple - add it as a separate
> out header.
>
> Host will be able to distinguish between header and pages
> by looking at the direction, and - should we want to add
> IN data to header - additionally size (<4K => header).
I think this works fine when the cmdq is only used for
reporting the unused pages. It would be an issue
if there are other usages (e.g. report memory statistics)
interleaving. I think one solution would be to lock the cmdq until
a cmd usage is done ((e.g. all the unused pages are reported) ) -
in this case, the periodically updated guest memory statistics
may be delayed for a while occasionally when live migration starts.
Would this be acceptable? If not, probably we can have the cmdq
for one usage only.
Best,
Wei
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-26 3:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-12 12:40 [PATCH v12 0/8] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 1/8] virtio-balloon: deflate via a page list Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 2/8] virtio-balloon: coding format cleanup Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 3/8] Introduce xbitmap Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 4/8] xbitmap: add xb_find_next_bit() and xb_zero() Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 5/8] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_SG Wei Wang
2017-07-12 13:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 13:29 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-12 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 7:42 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-13 20:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 7:12 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-23 1:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-26 3:48 ` Wei Wang [this message]
2017-07-26 17:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-27 2:50 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-28 23:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-29 12:47 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-30 4:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-30 5:59 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-07-30 16:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-30 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-31 12:36 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-13 0:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 1:16 ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-13 4:21 ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-28 8:25 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-28 23:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 6/8] mm: support reporting free page blocks Wei Wang
2017-07-13 0:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 8:25 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-14 12:30 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:54 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 15:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 19:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-17 15:24 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-18 2:12 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-19 8:13 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-19 12:01 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-24 9:00 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 9:32 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-25 11:25 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 11:56 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-25 12:41 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 14:47 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-07-25 14:53 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-26 2:22 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-26 10:24 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-26 11:44 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-26 11:55 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-26 12:47 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 7/8] mm: export symbol of next_zone and first_online_pgdat Wei Wang
2017-07-13 0:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 8:41 ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-07-14 12:31 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 8/8] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CMD_VQ Wei Wang
2017-07-13 0:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 8:46 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-13 17:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 0:14 ` [PATCH v12 0/8] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Michael S. Tsirkin
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