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From: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	 George Kennedy <george.kennedy@oracle.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@darnok.org>,
	 Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	 Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	 Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>,
	 Branislav Rankov <Branislav.Rankov@arm.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	 Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	 Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, kasan: don't poison boot memory
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 21:26:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeHK+yuvaYxjbfPwEeeh3mMa6_1hg=5LnjogxT2Vb1a-yiOmw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <509c1c80-bb2c-0c5c-ffa3-939ca40d2646@redhat.com>

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 8:46 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > 1. For KASAN_GENERIC: leave everything as is to be able to detect
> > these boot-time bugs.
> >
> > 2. For KASAN_SW_TAGS: remove boot-time poisoning via
> > kasan_free_pages(), but use the "invalid" tag as the default shadow
> > value. The end result should be the same: bad accesses will be
> > detected. For unallocated memory as it has the default "invalid" tag,
> > and for allocated memory as it's poisoned properly when
> > allocated/freed.
> >
> > 3. For KASAN_HW_TAGS: just remove boot-time poisoning via
> > kasan_free_pages(). As the memory tags have a random unspecified
> > value, we'll still have a 15/16 chance to detect a memory corruption.
> >
> > This also makes sense from the performance perspective: KASAN_GENERIC
> > isn't meant to be running in production, so having a larger perf
> > impact is acceptable. The other two modes will be faster.
>
> Sounds in principle sane to me.

I'll post a v2 soon, thanks!

> Side note: I am not sure if anybody runs KASAN in production. Memory is
> expensive. Feel free to prove me wrong, I'd be very interest in actual
> users.

We run KASAN_SW_TAGS on some dogfood testing devices, and
KASAN_HW_TAGS is being developed with the goal to be running in
production.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-17 20:56 [PATCH] mm, kasan: don't poison boot memory Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-18  8:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 19:40   ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-18 19:46     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 20:26       ` Andrey Konovalov [this message]
2021-02-19  0:06   ` George Kennedy
2021-02-19  0:09     ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-19 16:45       ` George Kennedy
2021-02-19 23:04         ` George Kennedy
2021-02-22  9:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 15:13             ` George Kennedy
2021-02-22 16:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 16:39                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 17:40                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-22 18:45                     ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-22 18:42                 ` George Kennedy
2021-02-22 21:55                   ` Mike Rapoport
     [not found]                     ` <9773282a-2854-25a4-9faa-9da5dd34e371@oracle.com>
2021-02-23 10:33                       ` Mike Rapoport
     [not found]                         ` <3ef9892f-d657-207f-d4cf-111f98dcb55c@oracle.com>
2021-02-23 15:47                           ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-23 18:05                             ` George Kennedy
2021-02-23 20:09                               ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-23 21:16                                 ` George Kennedy
2021-02-23 21:32                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-23 21:46                                     ` George Kennedy
2021-02-24 10:37                                       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-24 14:22                                         ` George Kennedy
2021-02-25  8:53                                           ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-25 12:38                                             ` George Kennedy
2021-02-25 14:57                                               ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-25 15:22                                                 ` George Kennedy
2021-02-25 16:06                                                   ` George Kennedy
2021-02-25 16:07                                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-25 16:31                                                     ` George Kennedy
2021-02-25 17:23                                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-25 17:41                                                         ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-25 17:50                                                       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-25 17:33                                                     ` George Kennedy
2021-02-26  1:19                                                       ` George Kennedy
2021-02-26 11:17                                                         ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-26 16:16                                                           ` George Kennedy
2021-02-28 18:08                                                             ` Mike Rapoport
2021-03-01 14:29                                                               ` George Kennedy
2021-03-02  1:20                                                                 ` George Kennedy
2021-03-02  9:57                                                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-02-23 21:26                                 ` George Kennedy

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