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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,  Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	 Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:30:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wh1q7ZSWhDWOyqmVawqjq55sUVkn8ASjE_b2VOcE1vFaA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c096cc82-60b4-9e75-06ad-156461292941@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 1:20 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> IIUC VM_MAYSHARE is always set in a MAP_SHARED mapping, but for file
> mappings we only set VM_SHARED if the file allows for writes

Heh.

This is a horrific hack, and probably should go away.

Yeah, we have that

                        if (!(file->f_mode & FMODE_WRITE))
                                vm_flags &= ~(VM_MAYWRITE | VM_SHARED);


but I think that's _entirely_ historical.

Long long ago, in a galaxy far away, we didn't handle shared mmap()
very well. In fact, we used to not handle it at all.

But nntpd would use write() to update the spool file, adn them read it
through a shared mmap.

And since our mmap() *was* coherent with people doing write() system
calls, but didn't handle actual dirty shared mmap, what Linux used to
do was to just say "Oh, you want a read-only shared file mmap? I can
do that - I'll just downgrade it to a read-only _private_ mapping, and
it actually ends up with the same semantics".

And here we are, 30 years later, and it still does that, but it leaves
the VM_MAYSHARE flag so that /proc/<pid>/maps can show that it's a
shared mapping.

                 Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-09 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-08  7:32 [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW David Hildenbrand
2022-08-08 16:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 18:45   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 19:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-09 19:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 21:16         ` David Laight
2022-08-11  7:13       ` [PATCH] sched/all: Change BUG_ON() instances to WARN_ON() Ingo Molnar
2022-08-11 20:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-11 21:28           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-11 23:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-14  1:10               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-12  9:29           ` [PATCH v2] sched/all: Change all BUG_ON() instances in the scheduler to WARN_ON_ONCE() Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20220815144143.zjsiamw5y22bvgki@suse.de>
2022-08-15 22:12               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-21 11:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2022-08-09 18:40 ` [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 18:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-09 18:53     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 19:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 19:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 19:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:30         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-08-09 20:38           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:23         ` David Hildenbrand

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