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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>, "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/13] mm: add unsafe_follow_pfn
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 21:38:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uHNV7di+J10_JyLY6ctdsAGNnGhF7qrFzRCWFnXsQSEwQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201007190023.GA5177@ziepe.ca>

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:00 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 08:10:34PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 7:36 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 06:44:24PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > Way back it was a reasonable assumptions that iomem mappings never
> > > > change the pfn range they point at. But this has changed:
> > > >
> > > > - gpu drivers dynamically manage their memory nowadays, invalidating
> > > > ptes with unmap_mapping_range when buffers get moved
> > > >
> > > > - contiguous dma allocations have moved from dedicated carvetouts to
> > > > cma regions. This means if we miss the unmap the pfn might contain
> > > > pagecache or anon memory (well anything allocated with GFP_MOVEABLE)
> > > >
> > > > - even /dev/mem now invalidates mappings when the kernel requests that
> > > > iomem region when CONFIG_IO_STRICT_DEVMEM is set, see 3234ac664a87
> > > > ("/dev/mem: Revoke mappings when a driver claims the region")
> > > >
> > > > Accessing pfns obtained from ptes without holding all the locks is
> > > > therefore no longer a good idea.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately there's some users where this is not fixable (like v4l
> > > > userptr of iomem mappings) or involves a pile of work (vfio type1
> > > > iommu). For now annotate these as unsafe and splat appropriately.
> > > >
> > > > This patch adds an unsafe_follow_pfn, which later patches will then
> > > > roll out to all appropriate places.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
> > > > Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> > > > Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > > > Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
> > > > Cc: Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > > Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
> > > > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> > > > Cc: linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org
> > > > Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org
> > > > Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
> > > >  include/linux/mm.h |  2 ++
> > > >  mm/memory.c        | 32 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > >  mm/nommu.c         | 17 +++++++++++++++++
> > > >  security/Kconfig   | 13 +++++++++++++
> > > >  4 files changed, 63 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > Makes sense to me.
> > >
> > > I wonder if we could change the original follow_pfn to require the
> > > ptep and then lockdep_assert_held() it against the page table lock?
> >
> > The safe variant with the pagetable lock is follow_pte_pmd. The only
> > way to make follow_pfn safe is if you have an mmu notifier and
> > corresponding retry logic. That is not covered by lockdep (it would
> > splat if we annotate the retry side), so I'm not sure how you'd check
> > for that?
>
> Right OK.
>
> > Checking for ptep lock doesn't work here, since the one leftover safe
> > user of this (kvm) doesn't need that at all, because it has the mmu
> > notifier.
>
> Ah, so a better name and/or function kdoc for follow_pfn is probably a
> good iead in this patch as well.

I did change that already to mention that you need an mmu notifier,
and that follow_pte_pmd respectively unsafe_follow_pfn are the
alternatives. Do you want more or something else here?

Note that I left the kerneldoc for the nommu.c case unchanged, since
without an mmu all bets are off anyway.

> > So I think we're as good as it gets, since I really have no idea how
> > to make sure follow_pfn callers do have an mmu notifier registered.
>
> Yah, can't be done. Most mmu notifier users should be using
> hmm_range_fault anyhow, kvm is really very special here.

We could pass an mmu notifier to follow_pfn and check that it has a
registration for vma->vm_mm, but that feels like overkill when kvm is
the only legit user for this.

> > I've followed the few other CONFIG_STRICT_FOO I've seen, which are all
> > explicit enables and default to "do not break uapi, damn the
> > (security) bugs". Which is I think how this should be done. It is in
> > the security section though, so hopefully competent distros will
> > enable this all.
>
> I thought the strict ones were more general and less clear security
> worries, not bugs like this.
>
> This is "allow a user triggerable use after free bug to exist in the
> kernel"

Since at most you get at GFP_MOVEABLE stuff I'm not sure you can use
this to pull the kernel over the table. Maybe best way is if you get a
gpu pagetable somehow into your pfn and then use that to access
abitrary stuff, but there's still an iommu. I think leveraging this is
going to be very tricky, and pretty much has to be device or driver
specific somehow.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-07 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-07 16:44 [PATCH 00/13] follow_pfn and other iomap races Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 01/13] drm/exynos: Stop using frame_vector helpers Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 20:32   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-07 21:32     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 21:36       ` John Hubbard
2020-10-07 21:50         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 02/13] drm/exynos: Use FOLL_LONGTERM for g2d cmdlists Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 20:43   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 03/13] misc/habana: Stop using frame_vector helpers Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 20:38   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 04/13] misc/habana: Use FOLL_LONGTERM for userptr Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 20:46   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm/frame-vector: Use FOLL_LONGTERM Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 16:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 17:12     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 17:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 21:13   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-07 21:30     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 06/13] media: videobuf2: Move frame_vector into media subsystem Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 22:18   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 07/13] mm: close race in generic_access_phys Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 17:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 18:01     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 23:21       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-08  0:44   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-08  7:23     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 08/13] s390/pci: Remove races against pte updates Daniel Vetter
2020-10-08 16:44   ` Gerald Schaefer
2020-10-08 17:16     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 09/13] PCI: obey iomem restrictions for procfs mmap Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 18:46   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 10/13] PCI: revoke mappings like devmem Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 18:41   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-10-07 19:24     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 19:33   ` Dan Williams
2020-10-07 19:47     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 22:23       ` Dan Williams
2020-10-07 22:29         ` Dan Williams
2020-10-08  8:09           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 23:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-08  7:31       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-08  7:49       ` Dan Williams
2020-10-08  8:13         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-08  8:35           ` Dan Williams
2020-10-08 12:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 11/13] mm: add unsafe_follow_pfn Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 17:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 18:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 19:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 19:38         ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 12/13] media/videbuf1|2: Mark follow_pfn usage as unsafe Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 16:44 ` [PATCH 13/13] vfio/type1: Mark follow_pfn " Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 17:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 18:14     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 18:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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