From: "Kasireddy, Vivek" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Kim, Dongwon" <dongwon.kim@intel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
"Chang, Junxiao" <junxiao.chang@intel.com>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC v1 1/3] mm/mmu_notifier: Add a new notifier for mapping updates (new pages)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 05:32:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <IA0PR11MB71857E9D6C3AD311CF698D13F80AA@IA0PR11MB7185.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZMbtsY4O3Ho3B69J@nvidia.com>
Hi Jason,
>
> > > Later the importer decides it needs the memory again so it again asks
> > > for the dmabuf to be present, which does hmm_range_fault and gets
> > > whatever is appropriate at the time.
> > Unless I am missing something, I think just doing the above still won't solve
> > the problem. Consider this sequence:
> > write_to_memfd(addr1, size, 'a');
> > buf = create_udmabuf_list(devfd, memfd, size);
> > addr2 = mmap_fd(buf, NUM_PAGES * NUM_ENTRIES * getpagesize());
> > read(addr2);
> > write_to_memfd(addr1, size, 'b');
> > punch_hole(memfd, MEMFD_SIZE / 2);
> > -> Since we can process the invalidate at this point, as per your suggestion,
> > we can trigger dmabuf move to let the importers know that the
> dmabuf's
> > backing memory has changed (or moved).
> >
> > read(addr2);
> > -> Because there is a hole, we can handle the read by either providing the
> > old pages or zero pages (if using hmm_range_fault()) to the
> > importers.
>
> You never provide the old pages. After trunctate the only correct
> value to read is zero.
>
> > Maybe it is against convention, but I think it makes sense to provide old
> > pages (that were mapped before the hole punch) because the importers
> > have not read the data in these pages ('b' above) yet.
>
> Nope.
>
> > And, another reason to provide old pages is because the data in
> > these pages is shown in a window on the Host's screen so it
> > doesn't make sense to show zero page data.
>
> So why did you trucate it if you want to keep the data?
>
>
> > -> write_to_memfd(addr1, size, 'c');
> > As the hole gets refilled (with new pages) after the above write, AFAIU,
> we
> > have to tell the importers again that since the backing memory has
> changed,
> > (new pages) they need to recreate their mappings. But herein lies the
> problem:
> > from inside the udmabuf driver, we cannot know when this write occurs,
> so we
> > would not be able to notify the importers of the dmabuf move.
>
> You get another invalidate because the memfd removes the zero pages
> that hmm_range_fault installed in the PTEs before replacing them with
> actual writable pages. Then you do the move, and another
> hmm_range_fault, and basically the whole thing over again. Except this
> time instead of returning zero pages it returns actual writable page.
Ok, when I tested earlier (by registering an invalidate callback) but without
hmm_range_fault(), I did not find this additional invalidate getting triggered.
Let me try with hmm_range_fault() and see if everything works as expected.
Thank you for your help.
Thanks,
Vivek
>
> Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-01 5:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-18 8:28 [RFC v1 0/3] udmabuf: Replace pages when there is FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE in memfd Vivek Kasireddy
2023-07-18 8:28 ` [RFC v1 1/3] mm/mmu_notifier: Add a new notifier for mapping updates (new pages) Vivek Kasireddy
2023-07-18 15:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-19 0:05 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-19 0:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-19 6:19 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-19 2:08 ` Alistair Popple
2023-07-20 7:43 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-20 9:00 ` Alistair Popple
2023-07-24 7:54 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-24 13:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-24 20:32 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-25 4:30 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-07-25 22:24 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-27 21:43 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-29 0:08 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-31 17:05 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-01 7:11 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-01 21:57 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-03 8:08 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-03 13:02 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-25 12:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-25 22:44 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-25 22:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-27 7:34 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-27 11:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-29 0:46 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-30 23:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-01 5:32 ` Kasireddy, Vivek [this message]
2023-08-01 12:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-01 12:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-01 12:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-01 12:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-01 12:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-01 12:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-01 17:53 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-01 18:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-03 7:35 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-03 12:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-03 12:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 0:14 ` Alistair Popple
2023-08-04 6:39 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-04 7:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:53 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-04 12:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-08 7:37 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-08 12:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-16 6:43 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-21 9:02 ` Alistair Popple
2023-08-22 6:14 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-22 8:15 ` Alistair Popple
2023-08-24 6:48 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-28 4:38 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-30 16:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-25 3:38 ` Alistair Popple
2023-07-24 13:36 ` Alistair Popple
2023-07-24 13:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-24 20:42 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-07-25 3:14 ` Alistair Popple
2023-07-18 8:28 ` [RFC v1 2/3] udmabuf: Replace pages when there is FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE in memfd Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-02 12:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-08-03 8:24 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-03 8:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-07-18 8:28 ` [RFC v1 3/3] selftests/dma-buf/udmabuf: Add tests for huge pages and FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE Vivek Kasireddy
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