From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Kyungsan Kim <ks0204.kim@samsung.com>
Cc: david@redhat.com, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, a.manzanares@samsung.com,
viacheslav.dubeyko@bytedance.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
seungjun.ha@samsung.com, wj28.lee@samsung.com
Subject: Re: FW: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] BoF VM live migration over CXL memory
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:40:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZDbQ5O7LAmGbhqFw@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230412111033.434644-1-ks0204.kim@samsung.com>
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:10:33PM +0900, Kyungsan Kim wrote:
> Pinning and plubbability is mutual exclusive so it can not happen at the same time.
> What we argue is ZONE_EXMEM does not "confine movability". an allocation context can determine the movability attribute.
> Even one unmovable allocation will make the entire CXL DRAM unpluggable.
> When you see ZONE_EXMEM just on movable/unmoable aspect, we think it is the same with ZONE_NORMAL,
> but ZONE_EXMEM works on an extended memory, as of now CXL DRAM.
>
> Then why ZONE_EXMEM is, ZONE_EXMEM considers not only the pluggability aspect, but CXL identifier for user/kenelspace API,
> the abstraction of multiple CXL DRAM channels, and zone unit algorithm for CXL HW characteristics.
> The last one is potential at the moment, though.
>
> As mentioned in ZONE_EXMEM thread, we are preparing slides to explain experiences and proposals.
> It it not final version now[1].
> [1] https://github.com/OpenMPDK/SMDK/wiki/93.-%5BLSF-MM-BPF-TOPIC%5D-SMDK-inspired-MM-changes-for-CXL
The problem is that you're starting out with a solution. Tell us what
your requirements are, at a really high level, then walk us through
why ZONE_EXMEM is the best way to satisfy those requirements.
Also, those slides are terrible. Even at 200% zoom, the text is tiny.
There is no MAP_NORMAL argument to mmap(), there are no GFP flags to
sys_mmap() and calling mmap() does not typically cause alloc_page() to
be called. I'm not sure that putting your thoughts onto slides is
making them any better organised.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-12 15:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-07 21:05 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] BoF VM live migration over CXL memory Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-07 22:23 ` James Houghton
2023-04-07 23:17 ` David Rientjes
2023-04-08 1:33 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-08 16:24 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-08 0:05 ` Gregory Price
2023-04-11 0:56 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-11 1:48 ` Gregory Price
2023-04-14 3:32 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-14 13:16 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] BoF VM live migration over CXL memory Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-11 6:37 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] BoF VM live migration over CXL memory Huang, Ying
2023-04-11 15:36 ` Gregory Price
2023-04-12 2:54 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-12 8:38 ` David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <CGME20230412111034epcas2p1b46d2a26b7d3ac5db3b0e454255527b0@epcas2p1.samsung.com>
2023-04-12 11:10 ` FW: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] BoF VM live migration over CXL memory Kyungsan Kim
2023-04-12 11:26 ` David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <CGME20230414084110epcas2p20b90a8d1892110d7ca3ac16290cd4686@epcas2p2.samsung.com>
2023-04-14 8:41 ` Kyungsan Kim
2023-04-12 15:40 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
[not found] ` <CGME20230414084114epcas2p4754d6c0d3c86a0d6d4e855058562100f@epcas2p4.samsung.com>
2023-04-14 8:41 ` Kyungsan Kim
2023-04-12 15:15 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] BoF VM live migration over CXL memory James Bottomley
2023-05-03 23:42 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-12 15:26 ` Gregory Price
2023-04-12 15:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-12 16:34 ` Gregory Price
2023-04-14 4:16 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-14 3:33 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-14 5:35 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-09 17:40 ` Shreyas Shah
2023-04-11 1:08 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-11 1:17 ` Shreyas Shah
2023-04-11 1:32 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-11 4:33 ` Shreyas Shah
2023-04-14 3:26 ` Dragan Stancevic
[not found] ` <CGME20230410030532epcas2p49eae675396bf81658c1a3401796da1d4@epcas2p4.samsung.com>
2023-04-10 3:05 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] BoF VM live migration over CXL memory Kyungsan Kim
2023-04-10 17:46 ` [External] " Viacheslav A.Dubeyko
2023-04-14 3:27 ` Dragan Stancevic
2023-04-11 18:00 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] BoF VM live migration over CXL memory Dave Hansen
2023-05-09 15:08 ` Dragan Stancevic
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