From: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel-team@fb.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/19] mm: slub: implement SLUB version of obj_to_index()
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:29:50 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2004301625490.1693@www.lameter.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200427164638.GC114719@carbon.DHCP.thefacebook.com>
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > Why do you need this? Just slap a pointer to the cgroup as additional
> > metadata onto the slab object. Is that not much simpler, safer and faster?
> >
>
> So, the problem is that not all slab objects are accounted, and sometimes
> we don't know if advance if they are accounted or not (with the current semantics
> of __GFP_ACCOUNT and SLAB_ACCOUNT flags). So we either have to increase
> the size of ALL slab objects, either create a pair of slab caches for each size.
>
> The first option is not that cheap in terms of the memory overhead. Especially
> for those who disable cgroups using a boot-time option.
If the cgroups are disabled on boot time then you can switch back to the
compact version. Otherwise just add a pointer to each object. It will make
it consistent and there is not much memory wastage.
The problem comes about with the power of 2 caches in the kmalloc array.
If one keeps the "natural alignment" instead of going for the normal
alignment of slab caches then the alignment will cause a lot of memory
wastage and thus the scheme of off slab metadata is likely going to be
unavoidable.
But I think we are just stacking one bad idea onto another here making
things much more complex than they could be. Well at least this justifies
all our jobs .... (not mine I am out of work... hehehe)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-30 16:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-22 20:46 [PATCH v3 00/19] The new cgroup slab memory controller Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] mm: memcg: factor out memcg- and lruvec-level changes out of __mod_lruvec_state() Roman Gushchin
2020-05-07 20:33 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-20 10:49 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] mm: memcg: prepare for byte-sized vmstat items Roman Gushchin
2020-05-07 20:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-20 11:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-20 11:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] mm: memcg: convert vmstat slab counters to bytes Roman Gushchin
2020-05-07 20:41 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-20 12:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-20 19:26 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-21 9:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-21 21:14 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] mm: slub: implement SLUB version of obj_to_index() Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 23:52 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-04-23 0:05 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-25 2:10 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-04-25 2:46 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-27 16:21 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-04-27 16:46 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-28 17:06 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-28 17:45 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-04-30 16:29 ` Christopher Lameter [this message]
2020-04-30 17:15 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-02 23:54 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-05-04 18:29 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-08 21:35 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-05-13 0:57 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-15 21:45 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-05-15 22:12 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-20 9:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-20 20:57 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-15 20:02 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-23 21:01 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-25 2:10 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-05-20 13:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-20 21:00 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-21 11:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-21 21:06 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] mm: memcontrol: decouple reference counting from page accounting Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] mm: memcg/slab: obj_cgroup API Roman Gushchin
2020-05-07 21:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-07 22:26 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-12 22:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-15 22:01 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] mm: memcg/slab: allocate obj_cgroups for non-root slab pages Roman Gushchin
2020-04-23 20:20 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-22 18:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-23 1:32 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-26 17:50 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-25 14:46 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] mm: memcg/slab: save obj_cgroup for non-root slab objects Roman Gushchin
2020-05-25 15:07 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-26 17:53 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-27 11:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] mm: memcg/slab: charge individual slab objects instead of pages Roman Gushchin
2020-05-25 16:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-26 18:04 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] mm: memcg/slab: deprecate memory.kmem.slabinfo Roman Gushchin
2020-05-07 21:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] mm: memcg/slab: move memcg_kmem_bypass() to memcontrol.h Roman Gushchin
2020-05-25 17:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] mm: memcg/slab: use a single set of kmem_caches for all accounted allocations Roman Gushchin
2020-05-26 10:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] mm: memcg/slab: simplify memcg cache creation Roman Gushchin
2020-05-26 10:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] mm: memcg/slab: deprecate memcg_kmem_get_cache() Roman Gushchin
2020-05-26 10:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] mm: memcg/slab: deprecate slab_root_caches Roman Gushchin
2020-05-26 10:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-26 18:50 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] mm: memcg/slab: remove redundant check in memcg_accumulate_slabinfo() Roman Gushchin
2020-05-26 11:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] mm: memcg/slab: use a single set of kmem_caches for all allocations Roman Gushchin
2020-05-26 14:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-27 8:35 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] kselftests: cgroup: add kernel memory accounting tests Roman Gushchin
2020-05-26 15:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-26 15:45 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-05-27 17:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-27 20:45 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-04-22 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] tools/cgroup: add memcg_slabinfo.py tool Roman Gushchin
2020-05-05 15:59 ` Tejun Heo
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