From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
cl@linux-foundation.org,
"hugh.dickins" <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/8] mm: handle_speculative_fault()
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:10:29 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001042052210.3630@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100105134357.4bfb4951.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>
> Then, my patch dropped speculative trial of page fault and did synchronous
> job here. I'm still considering how to insert some barrier to delay calling
> remove_vma() until all page fault goes. One idea was reference count but
> it was said not-enough crazy.
What lock would you use to protect the vma lookup (in order to then
increase the refcount)? A sequence lock with RCU lookup of the vma?
Sounds doable. But it also sounds way more expensive than the current VM
fault handling, which is pretty close to optimal for single-threaded
cases.. That RCU lookup might be cheap, but just the refcount is generally
going to be as expensive as a lock.
Are there some particular mappings that people care about more than
others? If we limit the speculative lookup purely to anonymous memory,
that might simplify the problem space?
[ From past experiences, I suspect DB people would be upset and really
want it for the general file mapping case.. But maybe the main usage
scenario is something else this time? ]
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-05 5:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-04 18:24 [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Speculative pagefault -v3 Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/8] mm: Remove pte reference from fault path Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/8] mm: Speculative pagefault infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/8] mm: Add vma sequence count Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/8] mm: RCU free vmas Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 2:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] mm: Speculative pte_map_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] mm: handle_speculative_fault() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 0:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 3:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 8:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 15:40 ` Al Viro
2010-01-05 16:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 15:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 4:29 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 4:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 5:10 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-01-05 5:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 7:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 15:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 16:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 17:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 17:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 20:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 23:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-06 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 1:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 2:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 3:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 3:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 7:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 7:49 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-06 9:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 1:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 16:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-08 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 17:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 18:46 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 19:10 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 19:28 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 21:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-09 14:47 ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-01-10 5:27 ` Nitin Gupta
2010-01-05 15:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 8:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 6:00 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 4:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 6:09 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 6:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 6:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 13:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-05 14:15 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 15:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-06 3:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-07 16:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-07 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 16:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 4:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-08 5:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 15:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-09 15:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-07 17:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 18:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 21:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 19:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 20:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 19:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-07 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 21:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 22:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 0:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 0:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 23:51 ` Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] mm,x86: speculative pagefault support Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] mm: Optimize pte_map_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 21:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Speculative pagefault -v3 Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 21:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 23:20 ` Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 21:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 2:26 ` Minchan Kim
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