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From: xunlei <xlpang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@gmail.com>, Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Wen Yang <wenyang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/slub: Introduce two counters for the partial objects
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 19:56:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d039e8e0-1d16-1fe5-c06b-1911b9dad323@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLGqrCTgQhdOTTWKcCz0TsVfh_AxTCVWNGj6Mo4hyE5E2Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 2020/8/8 上午1:28, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Christopher,
> 
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2020, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>>> I think we can just default to the counters. After all, if I
>>> understood correctly, we're talking about up to 100 ms time period
>>> with IRQs disabled when count_partial() is called. As this is
>>> triggerable from user space, that's a performance bug whatever way you
>>> look at it.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:02 PM Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
>> Well yes under extreme conditions and this is only happening for sysfs
>> counter retrieval.
> 
> You will likely get some stall even in less extreme conditions, and in
> any case, the kernel should not allow user space to trigger such a
> stall.
> 

Yes, agree. This problem has been causing lots of trouble to us and
other people, and should be fixed.

Either my approach or the approach provided by "Vlastimil Babka" [1] is
better than doing nothing.

[1]:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/158860845968.33385.4165926113074799048.stgit@buzz/

> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:02 PM Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
>> There could be other solutions to this. This solution here is penalizing
>> evertu hotpath slab allocation for the sake of relatively infrequently
>> used counter monitoring. There the possibility of not traversing the list
>> ande simply estimating the value based on the number of slab pages
>> allocated on that node.
> 
> Why do you consider this to be a fast path? This is all partial list
> accounting when we allocate/deallocate a slab, no? Just like
> ___slab_alloc() says, I assumed this to be the slow path... What am I
> missing?

The only hot path is __slab_free(), I've made an extra patch with percpu
counter to avoid the potential performance degradation, will send v2 out
for review.

> 
> No objections to alternative fixes, of course, but wrapping the
> counters under CONFIG_DEBUG seems like just hiding the actual issue...
> 
> - Pekka
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-10 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-02  8:32 [PATCH 1/2] mm/slub: Introduce two counters for the partial objects Xunlei Pang
2020-07-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/slub: Get rid of count_partial() Xunlei Pang
2020-07-02 11:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/slub: Introduce two counters for the partial objects Pekka Enberg
2020-07-03  9:37   ` xunlei
2020-07-07 15:23     ` Pekka Enberg
2020-07-09 14:32       ` Christopher Lameter
2020-07-31  2:57       ` xunlei
2020-07-07  6:59 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-07-31  2:52   ` xunlei
2020-08-06 12:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-08-07  7:25   ` Pekka Enberg
2020-08-07 13:02     ` Christopher Lameter
2020-08-07 17:28       ` Pekka Enberg
2020-08-10 11:56         ` xunlei [this message]
2020-08-11 12:52         ` Christopher Lameter
2020-08-20 13:58           ` Pekka Enberg
2020-08-24  9:59             ` xunlei

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