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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/15] mm: introduce execmem_alloc() and execmem_free()
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 20:02:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZiKjmaDgz_56ovbv@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPhsuW7WoU+a46FhqqH8f-3=ehxeD4wSgKDWegMin1pT49OSWw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 08:54:40AM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 11:56 PM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 02:01:22PM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:54 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 09:13:27AM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 8:37 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm looking at execmem_types more as definition of the consumers, maybe I
> > > > > > > > should have named the enum execmem_consumer at the first place.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think looking at execmem_type from consumers' point of view adds
> > > > > > > unnecessary complexity. IIUC, for most (if not all) archs, ftrace, kprobe,
> > > > > > > and bpf (and maybe also module text) all have the same requirements.
> > > > > > > Did I miss something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's enough to have one architecture with different constrains for kprobes
> > > > > > and bpf to warrant a type for each.
> > > > >
> > > > > AFAICT, some of these constraints can be changed without too much work.
> > > >
> > > > But why?
> > > > I honestly don't understand what are you trying to optimize here. A few
> > > > lines of initialization in execmem_info?
> > >
> > > IIUC, having separate EXECMEM_BPF and EXECMEM_KPROBE makes it
> > > harder for bpf and kprobe to share the same ROX page. In many use cases,
> > > a 2MiB page (assuming x86_64) is enough for all BPF, kprobe, ftrace, and
> > > module text. It is not efficient if we have to allocate separate pages for each
> > > of these use cases. If this is not a problem, the current approach works.
> >
> > The caching of large ROX pages does not need to be per type.
> >
> > In the POC I've posted for caching of large ROX pages on x86 [1], the cache is
> > global and to make kprobes and bpf use it it's enough to set a flag in
> > execmem_info.
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240411160526.2093408-1-rppt@kernel.org
> 
> For the ROX to work, we need different users (module text, kprobe, etc.) to have
> the same execmem_range. From [1]:
> 
> static void *execmem_cache_alloc(struct execmem_range *range, size_t size)
> {
> ...
>        p = __execmem_cache_alloc(size);
>        if (p)
>                return p;
>       err = execmem_cache_populate(range, size);
> ...
> }
> 
> We are calling __execmem_cache_alloc() without range. For this to work,
> we can only call execmem_cache_alloc() with one execmem_range.

Actually, on x86 this will "just work" because everything shares the same
address space :)

The 2M pages in the cache will be in the modules space, so
__execmem_cache_alloc() will always return memory from that address space.

For other architectures this indeed needs to be fixed with passing the
range to __execmem_cache_alloc() and limiting search in the cache for that
range.
 
> Did I miss something?
> 
> Thanks,
> Song

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-19 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-11 16:00 [PATCH v4 00/15] mm: jit/text allocator Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] arm64: module: remove uneeded call to kasan_alloc_module_shadow() Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] mips: module: rename MODULE_START to MODULES_VADDR Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] nios2: define virtual address space for modules Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] module: make module_memory_{alloc,free} more self-contained Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] mm: introduce execmem_alloc() and execmem_free() Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 19:42   ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-04-14  6:53     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-12  9:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2024-04-14  6:54     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-15  7:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-15 16:51     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-15 17:36     ` Mark Rutland
2024-04-16  7:22       ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-17 23:32         ` Song Liu
2024-04-18 15:35           ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-18 16:13             ` Song Liu
2024-04-18 17:52               ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-18 21:01                 ` Song Liu
2024-04-19  6:55                   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 15:54                     ` Song Liu
2024-04-19 17:02                       ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2024-04-19 17:32                         ` Song Liu
2024-04-19 19:59                           ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 21:42                             ` Song Liu
2024-04-20  4:22                               ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-20  9:11                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-22 18:32                                   ` Song Liu
2024-04-17 21:06   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] mm/execmem, arch: convert simple overrides of module_alloc to execmem Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 20:53   ` Sam Ravnborg
2024-04-14  7:26     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-15  8:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] mm/execmem, arch: convert remaining " Mike Rapoport
2024-04-15  9:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] arm64: extend execmem_info for generated code allocations Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] riscv: extend execmem_params " Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] powerpc: extend execmem_params for kprobes allocations Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] arch: make execmem setup available regardless of CONFIG_MODULES Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] x86/ftrace: enable dynamic ftrace without CONFIG_MODULES Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] powerpc: use CONFIG_EXECMEM instead of CONFIG_MODULES where appropiate Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] kprobes: remove dependency on CONFIG_MODULES Mike Rapoport
2024-04-17 21:16   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-18 15:37     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 15:49     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 15:59       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-20  7:33         ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-20  9:15           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-20 10:52             ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] bpf: remove CONFIG_BPF_JIT dependency on CONFIG_MODULES of Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 18:00 ` [PATCH v4 00/15] mm: jit/text allocator Kent Overstreet
2024-04-11 19:45 ` Luis Chamberlain

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