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From: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
To: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Next Mailing List <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: build failure after merge of the btrfs tree
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 15:30:09 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211031153009.79a2879d@canb.auug.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211029121409.GX20319@suse.cz>

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Hi David,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 14:14:09 +0200 David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 01:58:53PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Friday, October 29, 2021, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:52:26AM +0200, David Sterba wrote:  
> > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 09:09:24PM +1100, Stephen Rothwell wrote:  
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > [I am not sure why this error only popped up after I merged Andrew's
> > > > > patch set ...]  
> > >
> > >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > > Also I think that next time you can use some older version of the
> > > for-next branch instead of making the whole subsystem depend on BROKEN.
> > > This causes much more harm in the testing setups that suddenly can't
> > > work at all, compared to testing a few days older branch.  
> > 
> > The Linux Next reflects current state of affairs and marking something
> > which is definitely broken as BROCKEN is what I expect as a developer who
> > tests some other stuff on top of broken code.  
> 
> I'd argue against using the big 'depdends BROKEN' hammer as much as
> possible, surely not for linux-next. Normaly the BROKEN status is earned
> after known unfixed breakage for subsystems where nobody cares. If code
> is buggy and causes crashes when testing linux-next, that's something we
> want to see, not "no test results at all".
> 
> Can you imagine all compilation breakages in linux-next get resolved by
> BROKEN? I know Stephen is capable of fixing various compilation problems
> by himself and given the whole-tree scope it's heroic efforts, leaving
> the shortcuts for the rest. In this case the fix may not be obvious so
> I'd understand not merging my for-next branch at all or merging a stub
> like the latest rc instead, ie. resolving that on the integration level
> and not touching the config or code itself.

OK, this was a pain because the error did not show up until late in
the day (something in Andrew's patch series exposed the problem - note
my report was sent at 9:09 PM - my day starts about 7:30 AM).  This is
after I had merged maybe 150-200 tress in top of yours. My choices are
few at that point (you don't expect me to remerge all those trees,
right?).  Almost all errors I see are immediately after I merge a tree,
at which point my usual response is to reset my tree to before the
merge and then merge the previous day's version of the tree. Generally,
I do not fix build errors unless they are caused by an interaction
between 2 trees.

Given that I had spent some time to figure out what the problem was, I
expected a fix to be done pretty soon, so the easiest way I could
continue was to just mark btrfs broken and continue on (I still had
another hour to go before I was finished (my days get really long just
before Linus does a release :-( ).
-- 
Cheers,
Stephen Rothwell

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-31  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-27 10:09 linux-next: build failure after merge of the btrfs tree Stephen Rothwell
2021-10-29  8:28 ` Stephen Rothwell
2021-10-29  9:52 ` David Sterba
2021-10-29 10:50   ` David Sterba
     [not found]     ` <CAHp75VdXJEuY86pFC+bLoGbAYuGsA+KqEV-g4Dca25HHD-njHA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-10-29 12:14       ` David Sterba
2021-10-31  4:30         ` Stephen Rothwell [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-01-12 23:36 Stephen Rothwell
2023-01-13 10:59 ` David Sterba
2022-11-07 22:42 Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-08 11:21 ` David Sterba
2022-09-06 19:44 Stephen Rothwell
2022-08-21 23:44 Stephen Rothwell
2021-10-08  4:03 Stephen Rothwell
2021-10-08  5:56 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-04-21  0:25 Stephen Rothwell
2020-04-21  0:40 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-04-21  1:13   ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-04-21  1:33     ` Qu Wenruo
2020-04-21  1:55       ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-04-22 21:29 ` David Sterba
2020-04-24  5:17   ` Qu Wenruo
2020-02-19 22:23 Stephen Rothwell
2020-02-21 11:30 ` David Sterba
2020-02-21 11:33   ` David Sterba
2015-08-21  0:42 Stephen Rothwell
2012-12-16 23:00 Stephen Rothwell
2012-12-17  0:15 ` Chris Mason
2012-12-17  2:52   ` Chris Mason
2012-12-17  3:13     ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-12-17  3:38       ` Chris Mason
2012-12-17  2:01 ` Chris Mason
2012-10-01  4:22 Stephen Rothwell

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