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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>
Cc: "Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"Andreas Grünbacher" <andreas.gruenbacher@gmail.com>,
	"Patrick Plagwitz" <Patrick_Plagwitz@web.de>,
	"linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux NFS list" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux FS-devel Mailing List" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] OVL: add honoracl=off mount option.
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 22:08:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ada42cb-8783-49bb-fd0d-31e7fb7dacf4@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8736lx4goa.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

Hi Neil,

On 5/1/19 9:35 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> 
> If the upper and lower layers use incompatible ACL formats, it is not
> possible to copy the ACL xttr from one to the other, so overlayfs

                           attr (?)

> cannot work with them.
> This happens particularly with NFSv4 which uses system.nfs4_acl, and
> ext4 which uses system.posix_acl_access.
> 
> If all ACLs actually make to Unix permissions, then there is no need

                       map (?)

> to copy up the ACLs, but overlayfs cannot determine this.
> 
> So allow the sysadmin it assert that ACLs are not needed with a mount
> option
>   honoracl=off
> This causes the ACLs to not be copied, so filesystems with different
> ACL formats can be overlaid together.
> 
> Signed-off-by: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.txt | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  fs/overlayfs/copy_up.c                  |  9 +++++++--
>  fs/overlayfs/dir.c                      |  2 +-
>  fs/overlayfs/overlayfs.h                |  2 +-
>  fs/overlayfs/ovl_entry.h                |  1 +
>  fs/overlayfs/super.c                    | 15 +++++++++++++++
>  6 files changed, 49 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.txt b/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.txt
> index eef7d9d259e8..7ad675940c93 100644
> --- a/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.txt
> @@ -245,6 +245,30 @@ filesystem - future operations on the file are barely noticed by the
>  overlay filesystem (though an operation on the name of the file such as
>  rename or unlink will of course be noticed and handled).
>  
> +ACL copy-up
> +-----------
> +
> +When a file that only exists on the lower layer is modified it needs
> +to be copied up to the upper layer.  This means copying the metadata
> +and (usually) the data (though see "Metadata only copy up" below).
> +One part of the metadata can be problematic: the ACLs.
> +
> +Now all filesystems support ACLs, and when they do they don't all use

   Not

> +the same format.  A significant conflict appears between POSIX acls

                                                                  ACLs

> +used on many local filesystems, and NFSv4 ACLs used with NFSv4.  There

                                                                    These (or the)

> +two formats are, in general, not inter-convertible.
> +
> +If a site only uses regular Unix permissions (Read, Write, eXecute by
> +User, Group and Other), then as these permissions are compatible with
> +all ACLs, there is no need to copy ACLs.  overlayfs cannot determine
> +if this is the case itself.
> +
> +For this reason, overlayfs supports a mount option "honoracl=off"
> +which causes ACLs, any "system." extended attribute, on the lower
> +layer to be ignored and, particularly, not copied to the upper later.
> +This allows NFSv4 to be overlaid with a local filesystem, but should
> +only be used if the only access controls used on the filesystem are
> +Unix permission bits.
>  
>  Multiple lower layers
>  ---------------------



-- 
~Randy

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-02  5:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <5a6862bd-924d-25e4-2a8e-ba4f51e66604@web.de>
2016-12-05  9:28 ` [PATCH] overlayfs: ignore empty NFSv4 ACLs in ext4 upperdir Miklos Szeredi
2016-12-05 15:19   ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-12-05 15:36     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-12-05 16:25       ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-12-05 18:25         ` Patrick Plagwitz
2016-12-05 19:37         ` Andreas Grünbacher
2016-12-05 22:58           ` Patrick Plagwitz
2016-12-05 23:19             ` Andreas Grünbacher
2016-12-05 23:24               ` Andreas Grünbacher
2016-12-06 10:08                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-12-06 13:18                   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-12-06 18:58                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-02  2:02                       ` NeilBrown
2019-05-02  2:54                         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-02  3:57                           ` NeilBrown
2019-05-02 14:04                             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2019-05-02 14:28                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2019-05-02 15:08                                 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2019-05-02 17:16                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-02 17:53                                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2019-05-02 23:04                                 ` NeilBrown
2019-05-02 23:24                               ` NeilBrown
2019-05-03  6:54                                 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2019-05-02 17:26                             ` Goetz, Patrick G
2019-05-02 17:44                               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2019-05-02 17:51                                 ` Goetz, Patrick G
2019-05-03 15:27                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-03 17:39                                     ` Goetz, Patrick G
2019-05-02  4:35                         ` [PATCH] OVL: add honoracl=off mount option NeilBrown
2019-05-02  5:08                           ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2019-05-02 11:46                           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-02 23:19                             ` NeilBrown
2019-05-02 13:47                           ` J. R. Okajima
2019-05-03 15:35                         ` [PATCH] overlayfs: ignore empty NFSv4 ACLs in ext4 upperdir J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-03 17:26                           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-03 17:31                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-03 17:41                               ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-03 17:51                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2019-05-07  0:24                           ` NeilBrown
2019-05-10 20:09                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-09-18  9:07                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2019-09-18 19:49                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-07  8:07                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2019-05-07 23:51                             ` J. Bruce Fields

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