linux-nvme.lists.infradead.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: James Smart <jsmart2021@gmail.com>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Chao Leng <lengchao@huawei.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, axboe@fb.com, hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme-fabrics: fix crash for no IO queues
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:25:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210316212559.GA4161557@dhcp-10-100-145-180.wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63ed162c-77a7-105f-5f29-47fcd32f57cd@gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 01:57:16PM -0700, James Smart wrote:
> On 3/15/2021 10:08 PM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > > > A crash happens when set
> > > > > > > > feature(NVME_FEAT_NUM_QUEUES) timeout in nvme
> > > > > > > > over rdma(roce) reconnection, the reason is use
> > > > > > > > the queue which is not
> > > > > > > > alloced.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If queue is not live, should not allow queue request.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Can you describe exactly the scenario here? What is the state
> > > > > > > here? LIVE? or DELETING?
> > > > > > If seting feature(NVME_FEAT_NUM_QUEUES) failed due to time out or
> > > > > > the target return 0 io queues, nvme_set_queue_count will return 0,
> > > > > > and then reconnection will continue and success. The
> > > > > > state of controller
> > > > > > is LIVE. The request will continue to deliver by call ->queue_rq(),
> > > > > > and then crash happens.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thinking about this again, we should absolutely fail the reconnection
> > > > > when we are unable to set any I/O queues, it is just wrong to
> > > > > keep this controller alive...
> > > > Keith think keeping the controller alive for diagnose is better.
> > > > This is the patch which failed the connection.
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20210223072602.3196-1-lengchao@huawei.com/
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Now we have 2 choice:
> > > > 1.failed the connection when unable to set any I/O queues.
> > > > 2.do not allow queue request when queue is not live.
> > > 
> > > Okay, so there are different views on how to handles this. I
> > > personally find
> > > in-band administration for a misbehaving device is a good thing to
> > > have, but I
> > > won't 'nak' if the consensus from the people using this is for the
> > > other way.
> > 
> > While I understand that this can be useful, I've seen it do more harm
> > than good. It is really puzzling to people when the controller state
> > reflected is live (and even optimized) and no I/O is making progress for
> > unknown reason. And logs are rarely accessed in these cases.
> > 
> > I am also opting for failing it and rescheduling a reconnect.
> 
> Agree with Sagi. We also hit this issue a long time ago and I made the same
> change (commit 834d3710a093a) that Sagi is suggesting:  if the prior
> controller instance had io queues, but the new/reconnected controller fails
> to create io queues, then the controller create is failed and a reconnect is
> scheduled.

Okay, fair enough.

One more question: if the controller is in such a bad way that it will
never create IO queues without additional intervention, will this
behavior have the driver schedule reconnect indefinitely?

_______________________________________________
Linux-nvme mailing list
Linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-nvme

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-16 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-04  0:55 [PATCH] nvme-fabrics: fix crash for no IO queues Chao Leng
2021-03-05 20:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-08  1:30   ` Chao Leng
2021-03-15 17:08     ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-16  1:23       ` Chao Leng
2021-03-16  2:02         ` Keith Busch
2021-03-16  5:08           ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-16 20:57             ` James Smart
2021-03-16 21:25               ` Keith Busch [this message]
2021-03-16 23:52                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-17  0:19                 ` James Smart
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-03-03  2:53 Chao Leng

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20210316212559.GA4161557@dhcp-10-100-145-180.wdc.com \
    --to=kbusch@kernel.org \
    --cc=axboe@fb.com \
    --cc=hch@lst.de \
    --cc=jsmart2021@gmail.com \
    --cc=lengchao@huawei.com \
    --cc=linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=sagi@grimberg.me \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).