From: "Javier González" <javier@javigon.com>
To: Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 11:21:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220201102122.4okwj2gipjbvuyux@mpHalley-2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0e19ae4-b37a-e9a3-2be7-a5afb334a5c3@nvidia.com>
On 27.01.2022 07:14, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
>Hi,
>
>* Background :-
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Copy offload is a feature that allows file-systems or storage devices
>to be instructed to copy files/logical blocks without requiring
>involvement of the local CPU.
>
>With reference to the RISC-V summit keynote [1] single threaded
>performance is limiting due to Denard scaling and multi-threaded
>performance is slowing down due Moore's law limitations. With the rise
>of SNIA Computation Technical Storage Working Group (TWG) [2],
>offloading computations to the device or over the fabrics is becoming
>popular as there are several solutions available [2]. One of the common
>operation which is popular in the kernel and is not merged yet is Copy
>offload over the fabrics or on to the device.
>
>* Problem :-
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The original work which is done by Martin is present here [3]. The
>latest work which is posted by Mikulas [4] is not merged yet. These two
>approaches are totally different from each other. Several storage
>vendors discourage mixing copy offload requests with regular READ/WRITE
>I/O. Also, the fact that the operation fails if a copy request ever
>needs to be split as it traverses the stack it has the unfortunate
>side-effect of preventing copy offload from working in pretty much
>every common deployment configuration out there.
>
>* Current state of the work :-
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>With [3] being hard to handle arbitrary DM/MD stacking without
>splitting the command in two, one for copying IN and one for copying
>OUT. Which is then demonstrated by the [4] why [3] it is not a suitable
>candidate. Also, with [4] there is an unresolved problem with the
>two-command approach about how to handle changes to the DM layout
>between an IN and OUT operations.
>
>We have conducted a call with interested people late last year since
>lack of LSFMMM and we would like to share the details with broader
>community members.
Chaitanya,
I would also like to join the F2F conversation as a follow up of the
virtual one last year. We will have a first version of the patches
posted in the next few weeks. This will hopefully serve as a good first
step.
Adding Kanchan to thread too.
Javier
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2022-01-27 7:14 ` [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-01-28 19:59 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-01-31 11:49 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2022-01-31 19:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-01 1:54 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-01 10:21 ` Javier González [this message]
2022-02-01 18:31 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] NVMe copy offload patches Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 18:32 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] block: add copy offload support Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 19:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-03 18:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-03 20:11 ` Keith Busch
2022-02-03 22:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-04 12:09 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-04 13:34 ` Jens Axboe
2022-02-02 16:21 ` Keith Busch
2022-02-02 16:40 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-02 18:40 ` Knight, Frederick
2022-02-01 18:33 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] nvme: " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 19:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-01 19:25 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 18:33 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] nvme: add the "debug" host driver Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-02 6:01 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-02-03 16:06 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 16:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-03 19:34 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 19:46 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-02-03 20:57 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-03 22:52 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-02-04 3:00 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04 3:05 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-02 8:00 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-02 12:38 ` Klaus Jensen
2022-02-03 15:38 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 16:52 ` Keith Busch
2022-02-03 19:50 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-02-04 3:12 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04 6:28 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-04 7:58 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04 8:24 ` Javier González
2022-02-04 9:58 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04 11:34 ` Javier González
2022-02-04 14:15 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-02-04 14:24 ` Keith Busch
2022-02-04 16:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-04 19:41 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] NVMe copy offload patches Nitesh Shetty
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2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Add Copy offload support Nitesh Shetty
[not found] ` <CGME20220207141908epcas5p4f270c89fc32434ea8b525fa973098231@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] block: make bio_map_kern() non static Nitesh Shetty
[not found] ` <CGME20220207141913epcas5p4d41cb549b7cca1ede5c7a66bbd110da0@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] block: Introduce queue limits for copy-offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-08 7:01 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-08 18:43 ` Nitesh Shetty
[not found] ` <CGME20220207141918epcas5p4f9badc0c3f3f0913f091c850d2d3bd81@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] block: Add copy offload support infrastructure Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 22:45 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 23:26 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-08 7:21 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-09 10:22 ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-09 7:48 ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-09 10:32 ` Nitesh Shetty
[not found] ` <CGME20220207141924epcas5p26ad9cf5de732224f408aded12ed0a577@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] block: Introduce a new ioctl for copy Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-09 3:39 ` kernel test robot
[not found] ` <CGME20220207141930epcas5p2bcbff65f78ad1dede64648d73ddb3770@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] block: add emulation " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-08 3:20 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-16 13:32 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-17 13:18 ` Nitesh Shetty
[not found] ` <CGME20220207141937epcas5p2bd57ae35056c69b3e2f9ee2348d6af19@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] nvme: add copy support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-10 7:08 ` kernel test robot
[not found] ` <CGME20220207141942epcas5p4bda894a5833513c9211dcecc7928a951@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] nvmet: add copy command support for bdev and file ns Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 18:10 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 20:12 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-10 8:31 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-11 7:52 ` Dan Carpenter
[not found] ` <CGME20220207141948epcas5p4534f6bdc5a1e2e676d7d09c04f8b4a5b@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] dm: Add support for copy offload Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-16 13:51 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-24 12:42 ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-25 9:12 ` Mikulas Patocka
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2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] dm: Enable copy offload for dm-linear target Nitesh Shetty
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2022-02-07 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] dm kcopyd: use copy offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 9:57 ` [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-02 5:57 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-02-07 10:45 ` David Disseldorp
2022-03-01 17:34 ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-01 21:32 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-03-03 18:36 ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-08 20:48 ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-09 8:51 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-03-09 15:49 ` Nikos Tsironis
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2023-01-13 9:46 ` Nitesh Shetty
2021-05-11 0:15 Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-05-11 21:15 ` Knight, Frederick
2021-05-12 2:21 ` Bart Van Assche
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2021-05-12 7:13 ` Javier González
2021-05-12 7:30 ` Johannes Thumshirn
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2021-09-28 19:13 ` Javier González
2021-09-29 6:44 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2021-09-30 9:43 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-09-30 9:53 ` Javier González
2021-10-06 10:01 ` Javier González
2021-10-13 8:35 ` Javier González
2021-09-30 16:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-06 10:05 ` Javier González
2021-10-06 17:33 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-08 6:49 ` Javier González
2021-10-29 0:21 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-10-29 5:51 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-10-29 8:16 ` Javier González
2021-10-29 16:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-11-01 17:54 ` Keith Busch
2021-10-29 8:14 ` Javier González
2021-11-03 19:27 ` Javier González
2021-11-16 13:43 ` Javier González
2021-11-16 17:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-11-17 12:53 ` Javier González
2021-11-17 15:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-11-19 7:38 ` Javier González
2021-11-19 10:47 ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-11-19 15:51 ` Keith Busch
2021-11-19 16:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-11-22 7:39 ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-05-12 15:23 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-05-12 15:45 ` Himanshu Madhani
2021-05-17 16:39 ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-05-18 0:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-11 6:03 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-06-11 15:35 ` Nikos Tsironis
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2020-01-07 18:14 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-01-08 10:17 ` Javier González
2020-01-09 0:51 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-01-09 3:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2020-01-09 4:01 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-01-09 5:56 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-01-10 5:33 ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-01-24 14:23 ` Nikos Tsironis
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