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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 14:29:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181130222951.GA26980@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181130222605.GA26261@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 02:26:05PM -0800, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 03:14:59PM -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 14:12:19 -0800
> > Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > As a maintainer myself (and based on somewhat disturbed feedback from
> > > other maintainers) I can only make the conclusion that nobody knows what
> > > the responsibility part here means.
> > > 
> > > I would interpret, if I read it like at lawyer at least, that even for
> > > existing code you would need to do the changes postmorterm.
> > > 
> > > Is this wrong interpretation?  Should I conclude that I made a mistake
> > > by reading the CoC and trying to understand what it *actually* says?
> > > After this discussion, I can say that I understand it less than before.
> > 
> > Have you read Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst?
> > As has been pointed out, it contains a clear answer to how things should
> > be interpreted here.
> 
> Ugh, was not aware that there two documents.
> 
> Yeah, definitely sheds light. Why the documents could not be merged to
> single common sense code of conduct?

I.e. if the latter that you pointed out tells you what you actually
should do what value does the former bring?

Just looked up archives and realized that there has been whole alot
of CoC related discussions. No wonder this is seen as waste of time.

/Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-30 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20181130192737.15053-1-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] parisc: replace **** with a hug Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:48   ` Dennis Clarke
2018-11-30 23:03     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 23:05   ` Diego Viola
2018-11-30 19:40 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3 Kees Cook
2018-11-30 19:56   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-11-30 20:12     ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 20:34       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-30 20:35       ` David Miller
     [not found]         ` <2007856.n5V9iKLVsV@eth7>
2018-11-30 20:42           ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:43           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-01  4:08           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:42         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:47           ` David Miller
2018-11-30 21:53             ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 20:34     ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:55     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:01       ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:44         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:48           ` David Miller
2018-11-30 21:54             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:04               ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:57           ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:12             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:14               ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 22:26                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:29                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2018-11-30 22:30                   ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:40                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 23:28                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-01  8:20                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-12-07 13:39                   ` Eric Curtin
2018-11-30 22:26               ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:02       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 21:04       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 20:09   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-11-30 21:32     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:31   ` Matthias Brugger
2018-11-30 21:34     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:07   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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