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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: "dalias@libc.org" <dalias@libc.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] fs: Add fchmodat2()
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:36:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230727-boxte-wohnviertel-74b8541d27ec@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230727171336.GC20050@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 01:13:37PM -0400, dalias@libc.org wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 07:02:53PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 06:28:53PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> > > On Jul 27 2023, David Laight wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Aleksa Sarai
> > > >> Sent: 25 July 2023 17:36
> > > > ...
> > > >> We almost certainly want to support AT_EMPTY_PATH at the same time.
> > > >> Otherwise userspace will still need to go through /proc when trying to
> > > >> chmod a file handle they have.
> > > >
> > > > That can't be allowed.
> > > 
> > > IIUC, fchmodat2(fd, "", m, AT_EMPTY_PATH) is equivalent to fchmod(fd,
> > > m).  With that, new architectures only need to implement the fchmodat2
> > > syscall to cover all chmod variants.
> > 
> > There's a difference though as fchmod() doesn't work with O_PATH file
> > descriptors while AT_EMPTY_PATH does. Similar to how fchown() doesn't
> > work with O_PATH file descriptors.
> > 
> > However, we do allow AT_EMPTY_PATH with fchownat() so there's no reason
> > to not allow it for fchmodat2().
> > 
> > But it's a bit of a shame that O_PATH looks less and less like O_PATH.
> > It came from can-do-barely-anything to can-do-quite-a-lot-of-things over
> > the years.
> > 
> > In any case, AT_EMPTY_PATH for fchmodat2() can be an additional patch on
> > top.
> 
> From a standpoint of implementing O_SEARCH/O_EXEC using it, I don't
> see any reason fchown/fchmod should not work on O_PATH file
> descriptors. And indeed when you have procfs available to emulate them
> via procfs, it already does. So I don't see this as unwanted

I'm really not talking about the fact that proc is a giant loophole for
basically everyhing related to O_PATH and reopening fds.

I'm saying that both fchmod() and fchown() don't work on O_PATH fds.
They explicitly reject them.

AT_EMPTY_PATH and therefore O_PATH for fchmodat2() is fine given that we
do it for fchownat() already.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-27 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-17  1:27 Add a new fchmodat4() syscall, v2 Palmer Dabbelt
2019-07-17  1:27 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Non-functional cleanup of a "__user * filename" Palmer Dabbelt
2019-07-17  1:27 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] Add fchmodat4(), a new syscall Palmer Dabbelt
2019-07-17  1:48   ` Al Viro
2019-07-17  2:12     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-07-17  2:40   ` Rich Felker
2019-07-17  3:02     ` Al Viro
2019-07-17  1:27 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arch: Register fchmodat4, usually as syscall 434 Palmer Dabbelt
2019-07-17  1:27 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] tools: Add fchmodat4 Palmer Dabbelt
2019-07-17 12:39   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-06-09 13:52 ` Add a new fchmodat4() syscall, v2 Florian Weimer
2023-07-11 11:25   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Add a new fchmodat4() syscall Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 11:25     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] Non-functional cleanup of a "__user * filename" Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 11:32       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-11 11:25     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] fs: Add fchmodat4() Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 11:42       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-11 11:52         ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-11 12:51           ` Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 14:01             ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-11 15:23               ` Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 12:28       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-11 12:49         ` Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 11:25     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] arch: Register fchmodat4, usually as syscall 451 Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 11:31       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-11 11:25     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] tools headers UAPI: Sync files changed by new fchmodat4 syscall Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 11:25     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] selftests: add fchmodat4(2) selftest Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 12:10       ` Florian Weimer
2023-07-11 13:38         ` Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 12:24     ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Add a new fchmodat4() syscall Florian Weimer
2023-07-11 15:14       ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-25 11:05         ` Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-25 12:05           ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-11 16:16     ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Add a new fchmodat2() syscall Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 16:16       ` [PATCH v4 1/5] Non-functional cleanup of a "__user * filename" Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 16:16       ` [PATCH v4 2/5] fs: Add fchmodat2() Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 17:05         ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-25 16:36         ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-07-26 13:45           ` Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-27 10:26             ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-27 17:12             ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-07-27 17:39               ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-07-28  8:43                 ` David Laight
2023-07-28 18:42                   ` dalias
2023-07-27  9:01           ` David Laight
2023-07-27 16:28             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-27 17:02               ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-27 17:13                 ` dalias
2023-07-27 17:36                   ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2023-07-27 16:31             ` dalias
2023-07-11 16:16       ` [PATCH v4 3/5] arch: Register fchmodat2, usually as syscall 452 Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 16:26         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-25  7:16         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-07-25 16:43         ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-07-27 10:37           ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-27 17:42             ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-07-11 16:16       ` [PATCH v4 4/5] tools headers UAPI: Sync files changed by new fchmodat2 syscall Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 17:19         ` Namhyung Kim
2023-07-11 17:23           ` Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 16:16       ` [PATCH v4 5/5] selftests: Add fchmodat2 selftest Alexey Gladkov
2023-07-11 17:36       ` (subset) [PATCH v4 0/5] Add a new fchmodat2() syscall Christian Brauner
2023-07-12  2:42       ` Rich Felker
2023-07-25 15:58     ` Add fchmodat2() - or add a more general syscall? David Howells
2023-07-25 16:10       ` Florian Weimer
2023-07-25 16:50       ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-07-25 18:39       ` David Howells
2023-07-25 18:44         ` Rich Felker
2023-07-26 13:30         ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-27  3:57       ` Eric Biggers
2023-07-27 10:27         ` Christian Brauner

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