On 6/30/2020 10:32 AM, Ding Tianhong wrote: > > > ÔÚ 2020/6/30 3:57, Raj, Ashok дµÀ: >> Hi Bjorn >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 02:33:16PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: >>> [+cc Ashok, Ding, Casey] >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 12:32:44PM +0300, Aya Levin wrote: >>>> I wanted to turn on RO on the ETH driver based on >>>> pcie_relaxed_ordering_enabled(). >>>> From my experiments I see that pcie_relaxed_ordering_enabled() return true >>>> on Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 v3 @ 2.30GHz. This CPU is from Haswell >>>> series which is known to have bug in RO implementation. In this case, I >>>> expected pcie_relaxed_ordering_enabled() to return false, shouldn't it? >>> >>> Is there an erratum for this? How do we know this device has a bug >>> in relaxed ordering? >> >> https://software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/download/intel-64-and-ia-32-architectures-optimization-reference-manual.html >> >> For some reason they weren't documented in the errata, but under >> Optimization manual :-) >> >> Table 3-7. Intel Processor CPU RP Device IDs for Processors Optimizing PCIe >> Performance >> Processor CPU RP Device IDs >> Intel Xeon processors based on Broadwell microarchitecture 6F01H-6F0EH >> Intel Xeon processors based on Haswell microarchitecture 2F01H-2F0EH >> >> These are the two that were listed in the manual. drivers/pci/quirks.c also >> has an eloborate list of root ports where relaxed_ordering is disabled. Did >> you check if its not already covered here? >> >> Send lspci if its not already covered by this table. Attached lspci -vm output >> > > Looks like the chip series is not in the errta list, but it is really difficult to distinguish and test. Does Intel plan to send a fixing patch that will go to -stable? > >> >>> >>>> In addition, we are worried about future bugs in new CPUs which may result >>>> in performance degradation while using RO, as long as the function >>>> pcie_relaxed_ordering_enabled() will return true for these CPUs. >>> >>> I'm worried about this too. I do not want to add a Device ID to the >>> quirk_relaxedordering_disable() list for every new Intel CPU. That's >>> a huge hassle and creates a real problem for old kernels running on >>> those new CPUs, because things might work "most of the time" but not >>> always. Please advise how to move forward >> >> I'll check when this is fixed, i was told newer ones should work properly. >> But I'll confirm. Any updates? This is important information to proceed >> > > Maybe prevent the Relax Ordering for all Intel CPUs is a better soluton, looks like > it will not break anything. Should I provide this patch? Aya. > > Ding >> >> . >> >