From: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
bhelgaas@google.com, corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, mstowe@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci-driver: Add driver load messages
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:38:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2dfcabb-c62b-2823-b2a7-7d54799be183@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210126151259.GA2886142@bjorn-Precision-5520>
On 1/26/21 10:12 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> Hi Prarit,
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 09:05:23AM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>> On 1/26/21 8:53 AM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 08:42:12AM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>>>> On 1/26/21 8:14 AM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 07:54:46AM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>>>>>> Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:41:38PM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>>>>>>>> There are two situations where driver load messages are helpful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Some drivers silently load on devices and debugging driver or system
>>>>>>>> failures in these cases is difficult. While some drivers (networking
>>>>>>>> for example) may not completely initialize when the PCI driver probe()
function
>>>>>>>> has returned, it is still useful to have some idea of driver completion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, probably it is me, but I don't understand this use case.
>>>>>>> Are you adding global to whole kernel command line boot argument to debug
>>>>>>> what and when?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During boot:
>>>>>>> If device success, you will see it in /sys/bus/pci/[drivers|devices]/*.
>>>>>>> If device fails, you should get an error from that device (fix the
>>>>>>> device to return an error), or something immediately won't work and
>>>>>>> you won't see it in sysfs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What if there is a panic during boot? There's no way to get to sysfs.
>>>>>> That's the case where this is helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> How? If you have kernel panic, it means you have much more worse problem
>>>>> than not-supported device. If kernel panic was caused by the driver, you
>>>>> will see call trace related to it. If kernel panic was caused by
>>>>> something else, supported/not supported won't help here.
>>>>
>>>> I still have no idea *WHICH* device it was that the panic occurred on.
>>>
>>> The kernel panic is printed from the driver. There is one driver loaded
>>> for all same PCI devices which are probed without relation to their
>>> number.>
>>> If you have host with ten same cards, you will see one driver and this
>>> is where the problem and not in supported/not-supported device.
>>
>> That's true, but you can also have different cards loading the same driver.
>> See, for example, any PCI_IDs list in a driver.
>>
>> For example,
>>
>> 10:00.0 RAID bus controller: Broadcom / LSI MegaRAID SAS-3 3008 [Fury] (rev 02)
>> 20:00.0 RAID bus controller: Broadcom / LSI MegaRAID SAS-3 3108 [Invader]
(rev 02)
>>
>> Both load the megaraid driver and have different profiles within the
>> driver. I have no idea which one actually panicked until removing
>> one card.
>>
>> It's MUCH worse when debugging new hardware and getting a panic
>> from, for example, the uncore code which binds to a PCI mapped
>> device. One device might work and the next one doesn't. And then
>> you can multiply that by seeing *many* panics at once and trying to
>> determine if the problem was on one specific socket, die, or core.
>
> Would a dev_panic() interface that identified the device and driver
> help with this?
It would but,
>
> For driver_load_messages, it doesn't seem necessarily PCI-specific.
> If we want a message like that, maybe it could be in
> driver_probe_device() or similar? There are already a few pr_debug()
> calls in that path. There are some enabled by initcall_debug that
> include the return value from the probe; would those be close to what
> you're looking for?
I think this drivers/base/dd.c:727 might suffice. Let me try some tests
with that and get back to you.
Thanks for the pointers,
P.
>
> Bjorn
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-29 18:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-25 19:41 [PATCH] pci-driver: Add driver load messages Prarit Bhargava
2021-01-26 6:39 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-26 12:54 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-01-26 13:14 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-26 13:42 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-01-26 13:53 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-26 14:05 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-01-26 15:12 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-29 18:38 ` Prarit Bhargava [this message]
2021-02-18 18:36 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-02-18 19:06 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-04 14:42 ` Prarit Bhargava
2021-03-04 15:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-05 18:20 ` Prarit Bhargava
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2021-01-25 19:21 Prarit Bhargava
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