On 6/3/21 1:58 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 10:30:37AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote: >> On 6/3/21 10:23 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: >>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 10:03:47AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote: >>>> On 5/25/21 2:18 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 01:51:39PM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote: >>>>>> The shutdown() call is similar to the remove() call except the former does >>>>>> not need to invoke pci_{stop,remove}_root_bus(), and besides, errors occur >>>>>> if it does. >>>>> >>>>> This doesn't explain why shutdown() is necessary. "errors occur" >>>>> might be a hint, except that AFAICT, many similar drivers do invoke >>>>> pci_stop_root_bus() and pci_remove_root_bus() (several of them while >>>>> holding pci_lock_rescan_remove()), without implementing .shutdown(). >>>> >>>> We have to implement .shutdown() in order to meet a certain power budget >>>> while the chip is being put into S5 (soft off) state and still support >>>> Wake-on-WLAN, for our latest chips this translates into roughly 200mW of >>>> power savings at the wall. We could probably add a word or two in a v2 >>>> that indicates this is done for power savings. >>> >>> "Saving power" is a great reason to do this. But we still need to >>> connect this to the driver model and the system-level behavior >>> somehow. >>> >>> The pci_driver comment says @shutdown is to "stop idling DMA >>> operations" and it hooks into reboot_notifier_list in kernel/sys.c. >>> That's incorrect or at least incomplete because reboot_notifier_list >>> isn't mentioned at all in kernel/sys.c, and I don't see the connection >>> between @shutdown and reboot_notifier_list. >>> >>> AFAICT, @shutdown is currently used in this path: >>> >>> kernel_restart_prepare or kernel_shutdown_prepare >>> device_shutdown >>> dev->bus->shutdown >>> pci_device_shutdown # pci_bus_type.shutdown >>> drv->shutdown >>> >>> so we're going to either reboot or halt/power-off the entire system, >>> and we're not going to use this device again until we're in a >>> brand-new kernel and we re-enumerate the device and re-register the >>> driver. >>> >>> I'm not quite sure how either of those fits into the power-saving >>> reason. I guess going to S5 is probably via the kernel_power_off() >>> path and that by itself doesn't turn off as much power to the PCIe >>> controller as it could? And this new .shutdown() method will get >>> called in that path and will turn off more power, but will still leave >>> enough for wake-on-LAN to work? And when we *do* wake from S5, >>> obviously that means a complete boot with a new kernel. >> >> Correct, the S5 shutdown is via kernel_power_off() and will turn off all >> that we can in the PCIe root complex and its PHY, drop the PCIe link to >> the end-point which signals that the end-point can enter its own suspend >> logic, too. And yes, when we do wake-up from S5 it means booting a >> completely new kernel. S5 is typically implemented in our chips by >> keeping just a little bit of logic active to service wake-up events >> (infrared remotes, GPIOs, RTC, etc.). > > Which part of that does this patch change? Is it that the new > .shutdown() turns off more power than machine_power_off() does by > itself? Yes, with pcie-brcmstb.c providing a .shutdow() callback we have a chance to turn off our PCIe PHY and the RC's digital clock which would not be able to do otherwise. -- Florian