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From: "Zhang, Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>
To: 'Andrzej Pietrasiewicz' <andrzej.p@collabora.com>,
	"'linux-pm@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "'Rafael J . Wysocki'" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	'Len Brown' <lenb@kernel.org>, 'Jiri Pirko' <jiri@mellanox.com>,
	'Ido Schimmel' <idosch@mellanox.com>,
	"'David S . Miller'" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	'Peter Kaestle' <peter@piie.net>,
	'Darren Hart' <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	'Andy Shevchenko' <andy@infradead.org>,
	'Support Opensource' <support.opensource@diasemi.com>,
	'Daniel Lezcano' <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	'Amit Kucheria' <amit.kucheria@verdurent.com>,
	'Shawn Guo' <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	'Sascha Hauer' <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	'Pengutronix Kernel Team' <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	'Fabio Estevam' <festevam@gmail.com>,
	'NXP Linux Team' <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	'Heiko Stuebner' <heiko@sntech.de>,
	'Orson Zhai' <orsonzhai@gmail.com>,
	'Baolin Wang' <baolin.wang7@gmail.com>,
	'Chunyan Zhang' <zhang.lyra@gmail.com>,
	"'linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'netdev@vger.kernel.org'" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
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	"'linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org'" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"'kernel@collabora.com'" <kernel@collabora.com>,
	'Barlomiej Zolnierkiewicz' <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 2/2] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:20:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <744357E9AAD1214791ACBA4B0B90926377CF9A10@SHSMSX108.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <744357E9AAD1214791ACBA4B0B90926377CF60E3@SHSMSX108.ccr.corp.intel.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zhang, Rui
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:03 PM
> To: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>; linux-
> pm@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: Rafael J . Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>; Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>;
> Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>; Ido Schimmel <idosch@mellanox.com>; David
> S . Miller <davem@davemloft.net>; Peter Kaestle <peter@piie.net>; Darren
> Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>; Andy Shevchenko <andy@infradead.org>;
> Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>; Daniel Lezcano
> <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>; Amit Kucheria
> <amit.kucheria@verdurent.com>; Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>;
> Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>; Pengutronix Kernel Team
> <kernel@pengutronix.de>; Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>; NXP
> Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>; Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>;
> Orson Zhai <orsonzhai@gmail.com>; Baolin Wang
> <baolin.wang7@gmail.com>; Chunyan Zhang <zhang.lyra@gmail.com>; linux-
> acpi@vger.kernel.org; netdev@vger.kernel.org; platform-driver-
> x86@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> kernel@collabora.com; Barlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 2/2] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal
> devices
> 
> Hi, Andrzej,
> 
> Thanks for the patches. My Linux laptop was broken and won't get fixed till
> next week, so I may lost some of the discussions previously.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:57 AM
> > To: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
> > Cc: Zhang, Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>; Rafael J . Wysocki
> > <rjw@rjwysocki.net>; Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>; Jiri Pirko
> > <jiri@mellanox.com>; Ido Schimmel <idosch@mellanox.com>; David S .
> > Miller <davem@davemloft.net>; Peter Kaestle <peter@piie.net>; Darren
> > Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>; Andy Shevchenko <andy@infradead.org>;
> > Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>; Daniel Lezcano
> > <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>; Amit Kucheria
> > <amit.kucheria@verdurent.com>; Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>;
> Sascha
> > Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>; Pengutronix Kernel Team
> > <kernel@pengutronix.de>; Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>; NXP
> Linux
> > Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>; Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>; Orson
> Zhai
> > <orsonzhai@gmail.com>; Baolin Wang <baolin.wang7@gmail.com>;
> Chunyan
> > Zhang <zhang.lyra@gmail.com>; linux- acpi@vger.kernel.org;
> > netdev@vger.kernel.org; platform-driver- x86@vger.kernel.org;
> > linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> > kernel@collabora.com; Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>;
> > Barlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>
> > Subject: [PATCH v3 2/2] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal
> > devices
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Polling DISABLED devices is not desired, as all such "disabled"
> > devices are meant to be handled by userspace. This patch introduces
> > and uses
> > should_stop_polling() to decide whether the device should be polled or
> not.
> >
> Thanks for the fix, and IMO, this reveal some more problems.
> Say, we need to define "DISABLED" thermal zone.
> Can we read the temperature? Can we trust the trip point value?
> 
> IMO, a disabled thermal zone does not mean it is handled by userspace,
> because that is what the userspace governor designed for.
> Instead, if a thermal zone is disabled, in thermal_zone_device_update(), we
> should basically skip all the other operations as well.
> 
I overlooked the last line of the patch. So thermal_zone_device_update() returns
immediately if the thermal zone is disabled, right?

But how can we stop polling in this case?
There is no chance to call into monitor_thermal_zone() in thermal_zone_device_update(),
or do I miss something?

> I'll try your patches and probably make an incremental patch.

I have finished a small patch set to improve this based on my understanding, and will post it
tomorrow after testing.

Thanks,
rui
> 
> Thanks,
> rui
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c | 16 ++++++++++++++--
> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
> > b/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c index a2a5034f76e7..03c4d8d23284
> > 100644
> > --- a/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
> > +++ b/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
> > @@ -305,13 +305,22 @@ static void
> > thermal_zone_device_set_polling(struct
> > thermal_zone_device *tz,
> >  		cancel_delayed_work(&tz->poll_queue);
> >  }
> >
> > +static inline bool should_stop_polling(struct thermal_zone_device
> > +*tz) {
> > +	return thermal_zone_device_get_mode(tz) ==
> > THERMAL_DEVICE_DISABLED; }
> > +
> >  static void monitor_thermal_zone(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)  {
> > +	bool stop;
> > +
> > +	stop = should_stop_polling(tz);
> > +
> >  	mutex_lock(&tz->lock);
> >
> > -	if (tz->passive)
> > +	if (!stop && tz->passive)
> >  		thermal_zone_device_set_polling(tz, tz->passive_delay);
> > -	else if (tz->polling_delay)
> > +	else if (!stop && tz->polling_delay)
> >  		thermal_zone_device_set_polling(tz, tz->polling_delay);
> >  	else
> >  		thermal_zone_device_set_polling(tz, 0); @@ -503,6 +512,9
> @@ void
> > thermal_zone_device_update(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,  {
> >  	int count;
> >
> > +	if (should_stop_polling(tz))
> > +		return;
> > +
> >  	if (atomic_read(&in_suspend))
> >  		return;
> >
> > --
> > 2.17.1


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-27 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-07 17:49 [RFC 0/8] Stop monitoring disabled devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-07 17:49 ` [RFC 1/8] thermal: int3400_thermal: Statically initialize .get_mode()/.set_mode() ops Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200415091204eucas1p1983548c2db52d8d0c2a5367034ec80dd@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2020-04-15  9:12     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-07 17:49 ` [RFC 2/8] thermal: Properly handle mode values in .set_mode() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200415100543eucas1p24e24293da39844ca8791db86af5365a7@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2020-04-15 10:05     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-07 17:49 ` [RFC 3/8] thermal: Store thermal mode in a dedicated enum Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200415100944eucas1p1dcfeb784e790ca2fc3417fd2797e3f5d@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2020-04-15 10:09     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-07 17:49 ` [RFC 4/8] thermal: core: Introduce THERMAL_DEVICE_INITIAL Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-07 17:49 ` [RFC 5/8] thermal: core: Monitor thermal zone after mode change Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-07 17:49 ` [RFC 6/8] thermal: Set initial state to THERMAL_DEVICE_INITIAL Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-07 17:49 ` [RFC 7/8] thermal: of: Monitor thermal zone after enabling it Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200415101829eucas1p18e21324d3c39926fffc6c8b5dc52f206@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2020-04-15 10:18     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-07 17:49 ` [RFC 8/8] thermal: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-09 10:29 ` [RFC 0/8] Stop monitoring disabled devices Daniel Lezcano
2020-04-09 11:10   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]     ` <CGME20200415104010eucas1p101278e53e34a2e56dfc7c82b533a9122@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2020-04-15 10:40       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-17 16:23         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-19 11:42           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-17 21:11         ` Peter Kästle
2020-04-14 18:00   ` [RFC v2 0/9] " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-14 18:00     ` [RFC v2 1/9] thermal: int3400_thermal: Statically initialize .get_mode()/.set_mode() ops Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-15  9:23       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-04-14 18:00     ` [RFC v2 2/9] thermal: Eliminate an always-false condition Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-14 18:00     ` [RFC v2 3/9] thermal: Properly handle mode values in .set_mode() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-14 22:14       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-04-14 18:01     ` [RFC v2 4/9] thermal: core: Let thermal zone device's mode be stored in its struct Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-14 22:30       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-04-14 18:01     ` [RFC v2 5/9] thermal: Store mode in thermal_zone_device Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-15 10:55       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-04-17 16:20         ` [RFC v3 0/2] Stop monitoring disabled devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-17 16:20           ` [RFC v3 1/2] thermal: core: Let thermal zone device's mode be stored in its struct Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-17 20:44             ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-04-19 11:38             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-19 13:10               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-20 18:17                 ` [PATCH 0/2] Stop monitoring disabled devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-20 18:17                   ` [PATCH 1/2] thermal: core: Let thermal zone device's mode be stored in its struct Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-22  7:49                     ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-22 17:14                       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-22 17:03                     ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-22 17:15                       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-20 18:17                   ` [PATCH 2/2] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-22 16:12                   ` [PATCH RESEND 1/2] thermal: core: Let thermal zone device's mode be stored in its struct Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-23 14:39                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-23 16:57                       ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Stop monitoring disabled devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-23 16:57                         ` [PATCH v3 1/2] thermal: core: Let thermal zone device's mode be stored in its struct Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-04  7:00                           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-23 16:57                         ` [PATCH v3 2/2] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-24  9:03                           ` Zhang, Rui
2020-04-27 14:20                             ` Zhang, Rui [this message]
2020-04-27 18:34                               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-28 13:55                                 ` Zhang, Rui
2020-04-20 11:03               ` [RFC v3 1/2] thermal: core: Let thermal zone device's mode be stored in its struct Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-20 18:19                 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-23 21:24             ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-05-25 19:35               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-25 22:08                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-05-26 16:56                   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-27 13:30               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-04-17 16:20           ` [RFC v3 2/2] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-19 13:50           ` [RFC v3 1/2] thermal: core: Let thermal zone device's mode be stored in its struct Peter Kästle
2020-04-14 18:01     ` [RFC v2 6/9] thermal: Remove get_mode() method Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-14 18:01     ` [RFC v2 7/9] thermal: core: Monitor thermal zone after mode change Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-14 18:01     ` [RFC v2 8/9] thermal: of: Monitor thermal zone after enabling it Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-14 18:01     ` [RFC v2 9/9] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-14 21:52     ` [RFC v2 0/9] Stop monitoring disabled devices Ezequiel Garcia
     [not found] <Message-ID: <4493c0e4-51aa-3907-810c-74949ff27ca4@samsung.com>
2020-05-28 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 01/11] acpi: thermal: Fix error handling in the register function Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-29 14:50     ` Guenter Roeck
2020-06-24  8:16     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 02/11] thermal: Store thermal mode in a dedicated enum Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-29 14:48     ` Guenter Roeck
2020-05-29 15:13       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-29 15:34         ` Guenter Roeck
2020-06-24  9:38     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 03/11] thermal: Add current mode to thermal zone device Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-29 14:51     ` Guenter Roeck
2020-06-24  9:39     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 04/11] thermal: Store device mode in struct thermal_zone_device Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24  9:40     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 05/11] thermal: remove get_mode() operation of drivers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24  9:47     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 06/11] thermal: Add mode helpers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24  9:49     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 07/11] thermal: Use mode helpers in drivers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24  9:51     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-06-26 16:08       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 08/11] thermal: Explicitly enable non-changing thermal zone devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24 10:00     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 09/11] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24 10:02     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 10/11] thermal: Simplify or eliminate unnecessary set_mode() methods Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24 10:03     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-05-28 19:20   ` [PATCH v4 11/11] thermal: Rename set_mode() to change_mode() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24 10:03     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2020-06-01 11:36   ` [PATCH v4 02/11] thermal: Store thermal mode in a dedicated enum Peter Kästle
2020-06-01 11:36   ` [PATCH v4 04/11] thermal: Store device mode in struct thermal_zone_device Peter Kästle
2020-06-01 11:37   ` [PATCH v4 05/11] thermal: remove get_mode() operation of drivers Peter Kästle
2020-06-01 11:37   ` [PATCH v4 07/11] thermal: Use mode helpers in drivers Peter Kästle
2020-06-01 11:38   ` [PATCH v4 10/11] thermal: Simplify or eliminate unnecessary set_mode() methods Peter Kästle
2020-06-01 11:38   ` [PATCH v4 11/11] thermal: Rename set_mode() to change_mode() Peter Kästle
2020-06-23 14:37   ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Stop monitoring disabled devices Daniel Lezcano
2020-06-26 17:37     ` [PATCH v5 " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 01/11] acpi: thermal: Fix error handling in the register function Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29  7:19         ` Amit Kucheria
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 02/11] thermal: Store thermal mode in a dedicated enum Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29  7:19         ` Amit Kucheria
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 03/11] thermal: Add current mode to thermal zone device Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29  7:19         ` Amit Kucheria
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 04/11] thermal: Store device mode in struct thermal_zone_device Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29  7:19         ` Amit Kucheria
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 05/11] thermal: remove get_mode() operation of drivers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29  7:20         ` Amit Kucheria
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 06/11] thermal: Add mode helpers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-26 20:50         ` kernel test robot
2020-06-26 20:50         ` [RFC PATCH] thermal: thermal_zone_device_set_mode() can be static kernel test robot
2020-06-26 20:55         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] thermal: Add mode helpers kernel test robot
2020-06-29  7:04         ` Amit Kucheria
2020-06-29 11:16           ` [PATCH v6 00/11] Stop monitoring disabled devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 01/11] acpi: thermal: Fix error handling in the register function Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 02/11] thermal: Store thermal mode in a dedicated enum Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 03/11] thermal: Add current mode to thermal zone device Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 04/11] thermal: Store device mode in struct thermal_zone_device Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 05/11] thermal: remove get_mode() operation of drivers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 06/11] thermal: Add mode helpers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 12:08               ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 07/11] thermal: Use mode helpers in drivers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 08/11] thermal: Explicitly enable non-changing thermal zone devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 09/11] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 10/11] thermal: Simplify or eliminate unnecessary set_mode() methods Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-29 11:16             ` [PATCH v6 11/11] thermal: Rename set_mode() to change_mode() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 07/11] thermal: Use mode helpers in drivers Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 08/11] thermal: Explicitly enable non-changing thermal zone devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 09/11] thermal: core: Stop polling DISABLED thermal devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 10/11] thermal: Simplify or eliminate unnecessary set_mode() methods Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-26 17:37       ` [PATCH v5 11/11] thermal: Rename set_mode() to change_mode() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-01 10:02 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Stop monitoring disabled devices Peter Kästle
2020-06-01 10:20   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz

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