From: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
"Linux PM" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuidle-haltpoll: Enable kvm guest polling when dedicated physical CPUs are available
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:55:29 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANRm+CwtHBOVWFcn+6Z3Ds7dEcNL2JP+b6hLRS=oeUW98A24MQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190803202058.GA9316@amt.cnet>
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 04:21, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 06:54:49PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > On 01/08/19 18:51, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On 8/1/2019 9:06 AM, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> > >> From: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
> > >>
> > >> The downside of guest side polling is that polling is performed even
> > >> with other runnable tasks in the host. However, even if poll in kvm
> > >> can aware whether or not other runnable tasks in the same pCPU, it
> > >> can still incur extra overhead in over-subscribe scenario. Now we can
> > >> just enable guest polling when dedicated pCPUs are available.
> > >>
> > >> Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> > >> Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
> > >
> > > Paolo, Marcelo, any comments?
> >
> > Yes, it's a good idea.
> >
> > Acked-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> >
> > Paolo
>
Hi Marcelo,
Sorry for the late response.
> I think KVM_HINTS_REALTIME is being abused somewhat.
> It has no clear meaning and used in different locations
> for different purposes.
================== ============ =================================
KVM_HINTS_REALTIME 0 guest checks this feature bit to
determine that vCPUs are never
preempted for an unlimited time
allowing optimizations
================== ============ =================================
Now it disables pv queued spinlock, pv tlb shootdown, pv sched yield
which are not expected present in vCPUs are never preempted for an
unlimited time scenario.
>
> For example, i think that using pv queued spinlocks and
> haltpoll is a desired scenario, which the patch below disallows.
So even if dedicated pCPU is available, pv queued spinlocks should
still be chose if something like vhost-kthreads are used instead of
DPDK/vhost-user. kvm adaptive halt-polling will compete with
vhost-kthreads, however, poll in guest unaware other runnable tasks in
the host which will defeat vhost-kthreads.
Regards,
Wanpeng Li
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-13 0:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1564643196-7797-1-git-send-email-wanpengli@tencent.com>
2019-08-01 16:51 ` [PATCH] cpuidle-haltpoll: Enable kvm guest polling when dedicated physical CPUs are available Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-01 16:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-03 20:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-13 0:55 ` Wanpeng Li [this message]
2019-08-13 7:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-26 20:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-27 0:43 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28 8:35 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28 8:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-28 8:48 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28 14:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-28 23:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-29 12:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-29 12:16 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-29 12:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-29 14:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-28 14:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-28 14:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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