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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
Cc: "Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Hunter" <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	"Peter De Schrijver" <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Michał Mirosław" <mirq-linux@rere.qmqm.pl>,
	"Jasper Korten" <jja2000@gmail.com>,
	"David Heidelberg" <david@ixit.cz>,
	"Peter Geis" <pgwipeout@gmail.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 09/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Handle case where secondary CPU hangs on entering LP2
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 21:02:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f27481cf-ca5e-df47-932b-fcb4713f0d78@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b51f3f6b-8287-5ce8-fcaa-77cbab507618@gmail.com>

On 21/02/2020 19:19, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> 21.02.2020 20:36, Daniel Lezcano пишет:
>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 07:56:51PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> 21.02.2020 18:43, Daniel Lezcano пишет:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 02:51:26AM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>>>> It is possible that something may go wrong with the secondary CPU, in that
>>>>> case it is much nicer to get a dump of the flow-controller state before
>>>>> hanging machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Acked-by: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>
>>>>> Tested-by: Peter Geis <pgwipeout@gmail.com>
>>>>> Tested-by: Jasper Korten <jja2000@gmail.com>
>>>>> Tested-by: David Heidelberg <david@ixit.cz>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
>>>>> ---
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>>>> +static int tegra20_wait_for_secondary_cpu_parking(void)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	unsigned int retries = 3;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	while (retries--) {
>>>>> +		ktime_t timeout = ktime_add_ms(ktime_get(), 500);
>>>>
>>>> Oops I missed this one. Do not use ktime_get() in this code path, use jiffies.
>>>
>>> Could you please explain what benefits jiffies have over the ktime_get()?
>>
>> ktime_get() is very slow, jiffies is updated every tick.
> 
> But how jiffies are supposed to be updated if interrupts are disabled?

Yeah, other cpus must not be idle in this.

> Aren't jiffies actually slower than ktime_get() because jiffies are
> updating every 10/1ms (depending on CONFIG_HZ)?

They are no slower, they have a lower resolution which is 10ms or 4ms.

Given the 500ms timeout, it is fine.

> We're kinda interesting here in getting into deep-idling state as quick
> as possible. I was checking how much time takes the busy-loop below and
> it takes ~40-150us in average, which is good enough.

ktime_get() gets a seq lock and it is very slow.

>>>>> +
>>>>> +		/*
>>>>> +		 * The primary CPU0 core shall wait for the secondaries
>>>>> +		 * shutdown in order to power-off CPU's cluster safely.
>>>>> +		 * The timeout value depends on the current CPU frequency,
>>>>> +		 * it takes about 40-150us  in average and over 1000us in
>>>>> +		 * a worst case scenario.
>>>>> +		 */
>>>>> +		do {
>>>>> +			if (tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready())
>>>>> +				return 0;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +		} while (ktime_before(ktime_get(), timeout));
>>>>
>>>> So this loop will aggresively call tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() and retry 3
>>>> times. The tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() function can be called thoushand of times
>>>> here but the function will hang 1.5s :/
>>>>
>>>> I suggest something like:
>>>>
>>>> 	while (retries--i && !tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready()) 
>>>> 		udelay(100);
>>>>
>>>> So <retries> calls to tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() and 100us x <retries> maximum
>>>> impact.
>>> But udelay() also results into CPU spinning in a busy-loop, and thus,
>>> what's the difference?
>>
>> busy looping instead of register reads with all the hardware things involved behind.
> 
> Please notice that this code runs only on an older Cortex-A9/A15, which
> doesn't support WFE for the delaying, and thus, CPU always busy-loops
> inside udelay().
> 
> What about if I'll add cpu_relax() to the loop? Do you think it it could
> have any positive effect?

I think udelay() has a call to cpu_relax().




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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-21 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-12 23:51 [PATCH v9 00/17] Consolidate and improve NVIDIA Tegra CPUIDLE driver(s) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 01/17] ARM: tegra: Compile sleep-tegra20/30.S unconditionally Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 02/17] ARM: tegra: Add tegra_pm_park_secondary_cpu() Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 03/17] ARM: tegra: Remove pen-locking from cpuidle-tegra20 Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 14:58   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 04/17] ARM: tegra: Change tegra_set_cpu_in_lp2() type to void Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 15:04   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 05/17] ARM: tegra: Propagate error from tegra_idle_lp2_last() Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 15:16   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 17:21     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 17:40       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 18:42         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 19:16           ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 06/17] ARM: tegra: Expose PM functions required for new cpuidle driver Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 15:18   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 07/17] ARM: tegra: Rename some of the newly exposed PM functions Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 15:19   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 08/17] ARM: tegra: Make outer_disable() open-coded Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Handle case where secondary CPU hangs on entering LP2 Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 14:55   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:43   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 16:56     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 17:36       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 18:19         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 20:02           ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2020-02-21 20:21             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 20:42               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 20:48               ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 20:54                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 21:11                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-24 15:12                     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 10/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Make abort_flag atomic Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 15:25   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 11/17] arm: tegra20/30: cpuidle: Remove unnecessary memory barrier Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 15:25   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 12/17] cpuidle: Refactor and move out NVIDIA Tegra20 driver into drivers/cpuidle Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 15:44   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 13/17] cpuidle: tegra: Squash Tegra30 driver into the common driver Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 16:29   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 16:59     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 17:41       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 18:20         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 14/17] cpuidle: tegra: Squash Tegra114 " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 15/17] cpuidle: tegra: Disable CC6 state if LP2 unavailable Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 16:39   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 16/17] ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: Enable Tegra cpuidle driver Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 16:30   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 17/17] ARM: tegra: Enable Tegra cpuidle driver in tegra_defconfig Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 16:31   ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-13  0:38 ` [PATCH v9 00/17] Consolidate and improve NVIDIA Tegra CPUIDLE driver(s) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-18 14:56 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-24 16:44 ` Dmitry Osipenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-12-18 21:04 Dmitry Osipenko
2019-12-18 21:04 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Handle case where secondary CPU hangs on entering LP2 Dmitry Osipenko

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