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Mon, 21 Sep 2020 15:10:34 +0000 (UTC) To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Jens Axboe , Song Liu , Hans de Goede , Richard Weinberger , Minchan Kim , Johannes Thumshirn , Justin Sanders , linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org References: <20200921080734.452759-1-hch@lst.de> <20200921080734.452759-4-hch@lst.de> <20200921140010.GA14672@lst.de> From: Coly Li Autocrypt: addr=colyli@suse.de; keydata= mQINBFYX6S8BEAC9VSamb2aiMTQREFXK4K/W7nGnAinca7MRuFUD4JqWMJ9FakNRd/E0v30F qvZ2YWpidPjaIxHwu3u9tmLKqS+2vnP0k7PRHXBYbtZEMpy3kCzseNfdrNqwJ54A430BHf2S GMVRVENiScsnh4SnaYjFVvB8SrlhTsgVEXEBBma5Ktgq9YSoy5miatWmZvHLFTQgFMabCz/P j5/xzykrF6yHo0rHZtwzQzF8rriOplAFCECp/t05+OeHHxjSqSI0P/G79Ll+AJYLRRm9til/ K6yz/1hX5xMToIkYrshDJDrUc8DjEpISQQPhG19PzaUf3vFpmnSVYprcWfJWsa2wZyyjRFkf J51S82WfclafNC6N7eRXedpRpG6udUAYOA1YdtlyQRZa84EJvMzW96iSL1Gf+ZGtRuM3k49H 1wiWOjlANiJYSIWyzJjxAd/7Xtiy/s3PRKL9u9y25ftMLFa1IljiDG+mdY7LyAGfvdtIkanr iBpX4gWXd7lNQFLDJMfShfu+CTMCdRzCAQ9hIHPmBeZDJxKq721CyBiGAhRxDN+TYiaG/UWT 7IB7LL4zJrIe/xQ8HhRO+2NvT89o0LxEFKBGg39yjTMIrjbl2ZxY488+56UV4FclubrG+t16 r2KrandM7P5RjR+cuHhkKseim50Qsw0B+Eu33Hjry7YCihmGswARAQABtBhDb2x5IExpIDxj b2x5bGlAc3VzZS5kZT6JAlYEEwEIAEACGyMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgBYh BOo+RS/0+Uhgjej60Mc5B5Nrffj8BQJcR84dBQkY++fuAAoJEMc5B5Nrffj8ixcP/3KAKg1X EcoW4u/0z+Ton5rCyb/NpAww8MuRjNW82UBUac7yCi1y3OW7NtLjuBLw5SaVG5AArb7IF3U0 qTOobqfl5XHsT0o5wFHZaKUrnHb6y7V3SplsJWfkP3JmOooJsQB3z3K96ZTkFelsNb0ZaBRu gV+LA4MomhQ+D3BCDR1it1OX/tpvm2uaDF6s/8uFtcDEM9eQeqATN/QAJ49nvU/I8zDSY9rc 0x9mP0x+gH4RccbnoPu/rUG6Fm1ZpLrbb6NpaYBBJ/V1BC4lIOjnd24bsoQrQmnJn9dSr60X 1MY60XDszIyzRw7vbJcUn6ZzPNFDxFFT9diIb+wBp+DD8ZlD/hnVpl4f921ZbvfOSsXAJrKB 1hGY17FPwelp1sPcK2mDT+pfHEMV+OQdZzD2OCKtza/5IYismJJm3oVUYMogb5vDNAw9X2aP XgwUuG+FDEFPamFMUwIfzYHcePfqf0mMsaeSgtA/xTxzx/0MLjUJHl46Bc0uKDhv7QUyGz0j Ywgr2mHTvG+NWQ/mDeHNGkcnsnp3IY7koDHnN2xMFXzY4bn9m8ctqKo2roqjCzoxD/njoAhf KBzdybLHATqJG/yiZSbCxDA1n/J4FzPyZ0rNHUAJ/QndmmVspE9syFpFCKigvvyrzm016+k+ FJ59Q6RG4MSy/+J565Xj+DNY3/dCuQINBFYX6S8BEADZP+2cl4DRFaSaBms08W8/smc5T2CO YhAoygZn71rB7Djml2ZdvrLRjR8Qbn0Q/2L2gGUVc63pJnbrjlXSx2LfAFE0SlfYIJ11aFdF 9w7RvqWByQjDJor3Z0fWvPExplNgMvxpD0U0QrVT5dIGTx9hadejCl/ug09Lr6MPQn+a4+qs aRWwgCSHaIuDkH3zI1MJXiqXXFKUzJ/Fyx6R72rqiMPHH2nfwmMu6wOXAXb7+sXjZz5Po9GJ g2OcEc+rpUtKUJGyeQsnCDxUcqJXZDBi/GnhPCcraQuqiQ7EGWuJfjk51vaI/rW4bZkA9yEP B9rBYngbz7cQymUsfxuTT8OSlhxjP3l4ZIZFKIhDaQeZMj8pumBfEVUyiF6KVSfgfNQ/5PpM R4/pmGbRqrAAElhrRPbKQnCkGWDr8zG+AjN1KF6rHaFgAIO7TtZ+F28jq4reLkur0N5tQFww wFwxzROdeLHuZjL7eEtcnNnzSkXHczLkV4kQ3+vr/7Gm65mQfnVpg6JpwpVrbDYQeOFlxZ8+ GERY5Dag4KgKa/4cSZX2x/5+KkQx9wHwackw5gDCvAdZ+Q81nm6tRxEYBBiVDQZYqO73stgT ZyrkxykUbQIy8PI+g7XMDCMnPiDncQqgf96KR3cvw4wN8QrgA6xRo8xOc2C3X7jTMQUytCz9 0MyV1QARAQABiQI8BBgBCAAmAhsMFiEE6j5FL/T5SGCN6PrQxzkHk2t9+PwFAlxHziAFCRj7 5/EACgkQxzkHk2t9+PxgfA//cH5R1DvpJPwraTAl24SUcG9EWe+NXyqveApe05nk15zEuxxd e4zFEjo+xYZilSveLqYHrm/amvQhsQ6JLU+8N60DZHVcXbw1Eb8CEjM5oXdbcJpXh1/1BEwl 4phsQMkxOTns51bGDhTQkv4lsZKvNByB9NiiMkT43EOx14rjkhHw3rnqoI7ogu8OO7XWfKcL CbchjJ8t3c2XK1MUe056yPpNAT2XPNF2EEBPG2Y2F4vLgEbPv1EtpGUS1+JvmK3APxjXUl5z 6xrxCQDWM5AAtGfM/IswVjbZYSJYyH4BQKrShzMb0rWUjkpXvvjsjt8rEXpZEYJgX9jvCoxt oqjCKiVLpwje9WkEe9O9VxljmPvxAhVqJjX62S+TGp93iD+mvpCoHo3+CcvyRcilz+Ko8lfO hS9tYT0HDUiDLvpUyH1AR2xW9RGDevGfwGTpF0K6cLouqyZNdhlmNciX48tFUGjakRFsxRmX K0Jx4CEZubakJe+894sX6pvNFiI7qUUdB882i5GR3v9ijVPhaMr8oGuJ3kvwBIA8lvRBGVGn 9xvzkQ8Prpbqh30I4NMp8MjFdkwCN6znBKPHdjNTwE5PRZH0S9J0o67IEIvHfH0eAWAsgpTz +jwc7VKH7vkvgscUhq/v1/PEWCAqh9UHy7R/jiUxwzw/288OpgO+i+2l11Y= Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/13] bcache: inherit the optimal I/O size Message-ID: <5bcc52dc-ca8f-bbdd-69ef-4b6312e7994a@suse.de> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 23:09:48 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200921140010.GA14672@lst.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org On 2020/9/21 22:00, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 05:54:59PM +0800, Coly Li wrote: >> I am not sure whether virtual bcache device's optimal request size can >> be simply set like this. >> >> Most of time inherit backing device's optimal request size is fine, but >> there are two exceptions, >> - Read request hits on cache device >> - User sets sequential_cuttoff as 0, all writing may go into cache >> device firstly. >> For the above two conditions, all I/Os goes into cache device, using >> optimal request size of backing device might be improper. >> >> Just a guess, is it OK to set the optimal request size of the virtual >> bcache device as the least common multiple of cache device's and backing >> device's optimal request sizes ? > > Well, if the optimal I/O size is wrong, the read ahead size also is > wrong. Can we just drop the setting? > I feel this is something should be fixed. Indeed I overlooked it until you point out the issue now. The optimal request size and read ahead pages hint are necessary, but current initialization is simple. A better way might be dynamically setting them depends on the cache mode and some special configuration. By your inspiration, I want to ACK your original patch although it doesn't work fine for all condition. Then we may know these two settings (ra_pages and queue_io_opt) should be improved for more situations. At lease for most part of the situations they provide proper hints. How do you think of the above idea ? Coly Li