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From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] fs/locks: Export F_LAYOUT lease to user space
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 10:36:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190812173626.GB19746@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190809235231.GC7777@dread.disaster.area>

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 09:52:31AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 03:58:15PM -0700, ira.weiny@intel.com wrote:
> > From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
> > 
> > In order to support an opt-in policy for users to allow long term pins
> > of FS DAX pages we need to export the LAYOUT lease to user space.
> > 
> > This is the first of 2 new lease flags which must be used to allow a
> > long term pin to be made on a file.
> > 
> > After the complete series:
> > 
> > 0) Registrations to Device DAX char devs are not affected
> > 
> > 1) The user has to opt in to allowing page pins on a file with an exclusive
> >    layout lease.  Both exclusive and layout lease flags are user visible now.
> > 
> > 2) page pins will fail if the lease is not active when the file back page is
> >    encountered.
> > 
> > 3) Any truncate or hole punch operation on a pinned DAX page will fail.
> > 
> > 4) The user has the option of holding the lease or releasing it.  If they
> >    release it no other pin calls will work on the file.
> > 
> > 5) Closing the file is ok.
> > 
> > 6) Unmapping the file is ok
> > 
> > 7) Pins against the files are tracked back to an owning file or an owning mm
> >    depending on the internal subsystem needs.  With RDMA there is an owning
> >    file which is related to the pined file.
> > 
> > 8) Only RDMA is currently supported
> > 
> > 9) Truncation of pages which are not actively pinned nor covered by a lease
> >    will succeed.
> 
> This has nothing to do with layout leases or what they provide
> access arbitration over. Layout leases have _nothing_ to do with
> page pinning or RDMA - they arbitrate behaviour the file offset ->
> physical block device mapping within the filesystem and the
> behaviour that will occur when a specific lease is held.
> 
> The commit descripting needs to describe what F_LAYOUT actually
> protects, when they'll get broken, etc, not how RDMA is going to use
> it.

Ok yes I've been lax in mixing the cover letter for the series and this first
commit message.  My apologies.

> 
> > @@ -2022,8 +2030,26 @@ static int do_fcntl_add_lease(unsigned int fd, struct file *filp, long arg)
> >  	struct file_lock *fl;
> >  	struct fasync_struct *new;
> >  	int error;
> > +	unsigned int flags = 0;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * NOTE on F_LAYOUT lease
> > +	 *
> > +	 * LAYOUT lease types are taken on files which the user knows that
> > +	 * they will be pinning in memory for some indeterminate amount of
> > +	 * time.
> 
> Indeed, layout leases have nothing to do with pinning of memory.

Yep, Fair enough.  I'll rework the comment.

> That's something an application taht uses layout leases might do,
> but it largely irrelevant to the functionality layout leases
> provide. What needs to be done here is explain what the layout lease
> API actually guarantees w.r.t. the physical file layout, not what
> some application is going to do with a lease. e.g.
> 
> 	The layout lease F_RDLCK guarantees that the holder will be
> 	notified that the physical file layout is about to be
> 	changed, and that it needs to release any resources it has
> 	over the range of this lease, drop the lease and then
> 	request it again to wait for the kernel to finish whatever
> 	it is doing on that range.
> 
> 	The layout lease F_RDLCK also allows the holder to modify
> 	the physical layout of the file. If an operation from the
> 	lease holder occurs that would modify the layout, that lease
> 	holder does not get notification that a change will occur,
> 	but it will block until all other F_RDLCK leases have been
> 	released by their holders before going ahead.
> 
> 	If there is a F_WRLCK lease held on the file, then a F_RDLCK
> 	holder will fail any operation that may modify the physical
> 	layout of the file. F_WRLCK provides exclusive physical
> 	modification access to the holder, guaranteeing nothing else
> 	will change the layout of the file while it holds the lease.
> 
> 	The F_WRLCK holder can change the physical layout of the
> 	file if it so desires, this will block while F_RDLCK holders
> 	are notified and release their leases before the
> 	modification will take place.
> 
> We need to define the semantics we expose to userspace first.....

Agreed.  I believe I have implemented the semantics you describe above.  Do I
have your permission to use your verbiage as part of reworking the comment and
commit message?

Thanks,
Ira

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-12 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-09 22:58 [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal V1,000,002 ;-) ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] fs/locks: Export F_LAYOUT lease to user space ira.weiny
2019-08-09 23:52   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-12 17:36     ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2019-08-14  8:05       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-14 11:21         ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-14 11:38           ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] fs/locks: Add Exclusive flag to user Layout lease ira.weiny
2019-08-14 14:15   ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-14 21:56     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-26 10:41       ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-29 23:34         ` Ira Weiny
2019-09-04 12:52           ` Jeff Layton
2019-09-04 23:12   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/19] mm/gup: Pass flags down to __gup_device_huge* calls ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/19] mm/gup: Ensure F_LAYOUT lease is held prior to GUP'ing pages ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/19] fs/ext4: Teach ext4 to break layout leases ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/19] fs/ext4: Teach dax_layout_busy_page() to operate on a sub-range ira.weiny
2019-08-23 15:18   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-29 18:52     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/19] fs/xfs: Teach xfs to use new dax_layout_busy_page() ira.weiny
2019-08-09 23:30   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-12 18:05     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-14  8:04       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/19] fs/xfs: Fail truncate if page lease can't be broken ira.weiny
2019-08-09 23:22   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-12 18:08     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/19] mm/gup: Introduce vaddr_pin structure ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:06   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/19] mm/gup: Pass a NULL vaddr_pin through GUP fast ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:06   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/19] mm/gup: Pass follow_page_context further down the call stack ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:18   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 19:01     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/19] mm/gup: Prep put_user_pages() to take an vaddr_pin struct ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:30   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 20:46     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/19] {mm,file}: Add file_pins objects ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/19] fs/locks: Associate file pins while performing GUP ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/19] mm/gup: Introduce vaddr_pin_pages() ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:09   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 21:00     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-12 21:20       ` John Hubbard
2019-08-11 23:07   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 21:01     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-12 12:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-12 21:48     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13 11:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-13 17:46         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13 17:56           ` John Hubbard
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/19] RDMA/uverbs: Add back pointer to system file object ira.weiny
2019-08-12 13:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-12 17:28     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-12 17:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-12 21:15         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13 11:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-13 17:41             ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13 18:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-13 20:38                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-14 12:23                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-14 17:50                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-14 18:15                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-09-04 22:25                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-09-11  8:19                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] RDMA/umem: Convert to vaddr_[pin|unpin]* operations ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] {mm,procfs}: Add display file_pins proc ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] mm/gup: Remove FOLL_LONGTERM DAX exclusion ira.weiny
2019-08-14 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal V1,000,002 ;-) Jan Kara
2019-08-14 18:08   ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-15 13:05     ` Jan Kara
2019-08-16 19:05       ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-16 23:20         ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal V1,000,002 ; -) Ira Weiny
2019-08-19  6:36           ` Jan Kara
2019-08-17  2:26         ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal V1,000,002 ;-) Dave Chinner
2019-08-19  6:34           ` Jan Kara
2019-08-19  9:24             ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-19 12:38               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-19 21:53                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-20  1:12                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-20 11:55                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-21 18:02                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-21 18:13                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-21 18:22                         ` John Hubbard
2019-08-21 18:57                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-21 19:06                           ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-21 19:48                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-21 20:44                             ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-21 23:49                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-23  3:23                               ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-23 12:04                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-24  0:11                                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-24  5:08                                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-26  5:55                                       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-29  2:02                                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-29  3:27                                           ` John Hubbard
2019-08-29 16:16                                             ` Ira Weiny
2019-09-02 22:26                                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-04 16:54                                             ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-25 19:39                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-24  4:49                                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-25 19:40                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-23  0:59                       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-23 17:15                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-24  0:18                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-20  0:05               ` John Hubbard
2019-08-20  1:20                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-20  3:09                   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-20  3:36                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-21 18:43                       ` John Hubbard
2019-08-21 19:09                         ` Ira Weiny

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