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From: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Dave Ertman <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"nhorman@redhat.com" <nhorman@redhat.com>,
	"sassmann@redhat.com" <sassmann@redhat.com>,
	"jgg@ziepe.ca" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Kiran Patil <kiran.patil@intel.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Bie, Tiwei" <tiwei.bie@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [net-next v2 1/1] virtual-bus: Implementation of Virtual Bus
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 15:14:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM0PR05MB486605742430D120769F6C45D14C0@AM0PR05MB4866.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ead356f5-db81-cb01-0d74-b9e34965a20f@redhat.com>



> From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:37 AM
> 
> On 2019/11/19 下午3:13, Parav Pandit wrote:
> >> From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [net-next v2 1/1] virtual-bus: Implementation of Virtual
> >> Bus
> >>
> >>
> > [..]
> >
> >> Probably, for virtio mdev we need more than just matching: life cycle
> >> management, cooperation with VFIO and we also want to be prepared for
> >> the device slicing (like sub functions).
> > Well I am revising my patches to life cycle sub functions via devlink
> > interface for few reasons, as
> >
> > (a) avoid mdev bus abuse (still named as mdev in your v13 series,
> > though it is actually for vfio-mdev)
> 
> 
> Yes, but it could be simply renamed to "vfio-mdev".
> 
> 
> > (b) support iommu
> 
> 
> That is already supported by mdev.
> 
> 
> > (c) manage and have coupling with devlink eswitch framework, which is
> > very rich in several aspects
> 
> 
> Good point.
> 
> 
> > (d) get rid of limited sysfs interface for mdev creation, as netlink is
> standard and flexible to add params etc.
> 
> 
> Standard but net specific.
> 
> 
> >
> > If you want to get a glimpse of old RFC work of my revised series, please
> refer to [1].
> 
> 
> Will do.
> 
> 
> >
> > Jiri, Jason, me think that even virtio accelerated devices will need eswitch
> support. And hence, life cycling virtio accelerated devices via devlink makes a
> lot of sense to us.
> > This way user has single tool to choose what type of device he want to use
> (similar to ip link add link type).
> > So sub function flavour will be something like (virtio or sf).
> 
> 
> Networking is only one of the types that is supported in virtio-mdev.
> The codes are generic enough to support any kind of virtio device (block,
> scsi, crypto etc). Sysfs is less flexible but type independent.
> I agree that devlink is standard and feature richer but still network specific.
> It's probably hard to add devlink to other type of physical drivers. I'm
> thinking whether it's possible to combine syfs and devlink:
> e.g the mdev is available only after the sub fuction is created and fully
> configured by devlink.
> 

Nop. Devlink is NOT net specific. It works at the bus/device level.
Any block/scsi/crypto can register devlink instance and implement the necessary ops as long as device has bus.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-19 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-15 22:33 [net-next v2 1/1] virtual-bus: Implementation of Virtual Bus Jeff Kirsher
2019-11-15 23:25 ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-19  3:58   ` Ertman, David M
2019-11-19  4:31     ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-19  4:39       ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-19 17:46         ` Ertman, David M
2019-11-19 18:39           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-19 17:44       ` Ertman, David M
2019-11-19  4:08   ` Jason Wang
2019-11-19  4:36     ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-19  6:51       ` Jason Wang
2019-11-19  7:13         ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-19  7:37           ` Jason Wang
2019-11-19 15:14             ` Parav Pandit [this message]
2019-11-20  3:15               ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20  3:38                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-20  4:07                   ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20 13:41                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-21  4:06                       ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20  8:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-20 12:03                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-11-19 16:46             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-19 18:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-19 19:03                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-19 21:34                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-19 19:15                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-19 21:33                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-19 23:10                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-20  0:16                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-20  1:46                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-20  3:59                           ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20  5:34                             ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20 13:38                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-20 14:15                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-20 17:28                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-11-20 18:11                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-20 22:07                                   ` Alex Williamson
2019-11-20 22:39                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-21  8:17                                       ` Jason Wang
2019-11-21  3:03                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-21  4:24                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-21 13:44                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-23 16:50                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-21  7:21                                       ` Jason Wang
2019-11-21 14:17                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-22  8:45                                           ` Jason Wang
2019-11-22 18:02                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-23  4:39                                               ` Tiwei Bie
2019-11-23 23:09                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-24 11:00                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-24 14:56                                                     ` Tiwei Bie
2019-11-25  0:07                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-24 14:51                                                   ` Tiwei Bie
2019-11-24 15:07                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-25  0:09                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-25 12:59                                                       ` Jason Wang
2019-11-23 16:48                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-21  5:22                                     ` Jason Wang
2019-11-21  6:59                                   ` Jason Wang
2019-11-21  3:52                               ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20  7:38                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-20 13:03                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-20 13:43                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-20 14:30                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-20 14:57                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-20 16:45                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-20 22:05                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-21  1:38                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-21  4:53                                       ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20  3:29                   ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20  3:24               ` Jason Wang
2019-11-20 13:33                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-21  3:57                   ` Jason Wang
2019-11-21 15:10     ` Martin Habets
2019-11-22  9:13       ` Jason Wang
2019-11-22 16:19         ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-26 12:26           ` Martin Habets
2019-11-27 10:58             ` Jason Wang
2019-11-27 11:03               ` Jason Wang
2019-11-15 23:42 ` Parav Pandit
2019-11-18  7:48 ` Greg KH
2019-11-18 22:57   ` Ertman, David M
2019-11-19  8:04   ` Jason Wang
2019-11-19 17:50     ` Ertman, David M
2019-11-18  7:49 ` Greg KH
2019-11-18 22:55   ` Ertman, David M

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