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From: Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>
To: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
	Maling list - DRI developers  <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"open list:DRM DRIVERS FOR RENESAS" 
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 27/27] drm: Add default modes for connectors in unknown state
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 10:25:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPj87rMo61nVdhVo4HVc2-Lqb9EHgZmGVc7cFaRuuN1zGHQtPQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200626115957.566efa5b@eldfell>

Hi,

On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 10:00, Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 12:44:36 +0200 Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > Maybe an aside, but the guideline is for autoconfiguration:
> > - Light up everything that has connector status connected.
> > - If nothing has that status, try to light up the connectors with
> > status "unknown".
> >
> > This is only really relevant on older platforms, mostly for VGA and
> > somewhat for dvi outputs.
> >
> > Maybe another thing we should put down somewhere in the uapi docs ...
>
> As I had no idea what "unknown" means or when it can happen, I assumed
> that it must mean "the hardware cannot know". If the hardware cannot
> know, then I certainly will not be trying to enable that, unless
> explicitly configured to do so. Having a phantom output is worse than
> having a real output that does not light up, because it's not obvious at
> first with phantom output that anything is wrong. You may just be
> wondering where your windows disappear, or where did you mouse cursor
> go, or why you see a wallpaper but no login dialog, etc.

How about a refinement of Dan's suggestion, proceeding down this
logical order and breaking if true:
- ignore all disconnected outputs
- if any outputs are connected, ignore all unknown outputs
- if only one output is unknown, use only that output (with default
mode if need be)
- if any outputs are unknown but have EDID present, use only those outputs
- at this point, we have multiple unknown outputs with no EDID - break
and demand explicit user configuration

Cheers,
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-26  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-26  1:14 [PATCH 00/27] Converter R-Car DU to the DRM bridge connector helper Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 01/27] drm: bridge: adv7511: Split EDID read to a separate function Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 02/27] drm: bridge: adv7511: Split connector creation " Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 03/27] drm: bridge: adv7511: Implement bridge connector operations Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-21  8:25   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 04/27] drm: bridge: adv7511: Make connector creation optional Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 05/27] drm: bridge: Return NULL on error from drm_bridge_get_edid() Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-21  8:26   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 06/27] drm: bridge: simple-bridge: Delegate operations to next bridge Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 07/27] drm: bridge: simple-bridge: Make connector creation optional Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 08/27] drm: rcar-du: lvds: Convert to DRM panel bridge helper Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 09/27] drm: edid: Constify connector argument to infoframe functions Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-21  8:27   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 10/27] drm: bridge: Pass drm_display_info to drm_bridge_funcs .mode_valid() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:51   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26 12:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2020-05-26 14:05   ` Guido Günther
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 11/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass private data pointer to .mode_valid() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:44   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 12/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass private data pointer to .configure_phy() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:45   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 13/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Remove unused field from dw_hdmi_plat_data Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:45   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 14/27] drm: meson: dw-hdmi: Use dw_hdmi context to replace hack Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:32   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 15/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass drm_display_info to .mode_valid() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:46   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 16/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Constify mode argument to dw_hdmi_phy_ops .init() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:46   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 17/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Constify mode argument to internal functions Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:46   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 18/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass drm_display_info to dw_hdmi_support_scdc() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:48   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 19/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Split connector creation to a separate function Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:49   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 20/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Store current connector in struct dw_hdmi Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:29   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 21/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass drm_connector to internal functions as needed Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:29   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 22/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Make connector creation optional Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:35   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-06-07  1:19     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 23/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Attach to next bridge if available Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:50   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26 14:23     ` Jonas Karlman
2020-06-07  1:24       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-07  1:22     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 24/27] drm: rcar-du: dw-hdmi: Set output port number Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 25/27] drm: rcar-du: Fix error handling in rcar_du_encoder_init() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 26/27] drm: rcar-du: Use drm_bridge_connector_init() helper Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 27/27] drm: Add default modes for connectors in unknown state Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-21  8:40   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-06-24  1:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-24  7:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-24 15:24         ` Alex Deucher
2020-06-24 19:31           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-24 19:40             ` Alex Deucher
2020-06-25  7:56               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-25  7:57                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-25 10:31                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-06-25 10:44                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-26  8:59                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-06-26  9:25                         ` Daniel Stone [this message]
2020-06-26 13:35                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-24 22:47         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-23 18:55 ` [PATCH 00/27] Converter R-Car DU to the DRM bridge connector helper Sam Ravnborg
2020-06-25  8:48   ` Liu Ying
2020-06-27 19:55     ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-06-28  8:28       ` Laurent Pinchart

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