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From: Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
	"david.abdurachmanov@gmail.com" <david.abdurachmanov@gmail.com>
Cc: Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
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	"me@packi.ch" <me@packi.ch>,
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	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
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	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
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Subject: Re: [v3 PATCH 8/8] RISC-V: Assign hwcap only according to boot cpu.
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 12:03:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83562b9d-e94b-76ce-7240-aac1dce43205@wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-baffacaa-599b-4c89-a5a0-e0c85ddb6d44@palmer-si-x1c4>

On 2/11/19 11:02 AM, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2019 20:26:07 PST (-0800), david.abdurachmanov@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:03 AM Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/8/19 1:11 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>> +     * We don't support running Linux on hertergenous ISA systems.
>>>>> +     * But first "okay" processor might not be the boot cpu.
>>>>> +     * Check the ISA of boot cpu.
>>>>
>>>> Please use up your available 80 characters per line in comments.
>>>>
>>> I will fix it.
>>>
>>>>> +            /*
>>>>> +             * All "okay" hart should have same isa. We don't know how to
>>>>> +             * handle if they don't. Throw a warning for now.
>>>>> +             */
>>>>> +            if (elf_hwcap && temp_hwcap != elf_hwcap)
>>>>> +                    pr_warn("isa mismatch: 0x%lx != 0x%lx\n",
>>>>> +                            elf_hwcap, temp_hwcap);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +            if (hartid == boot_cpu_hartid)
>>>>> +                    boot_hwcap = temp_hwcap;
>>>>> +            elf_hwcap = temp_hwcap;
>>>>
>>>> So we always set elf_hwcap to the capabilities of the previous cpu.
>>>>
>>>>> +            temp_hwcap = 0;
>>>>
>>>> I think tmp_hwcap should be declared and initialized inside the outer loop
>>>> instead having to manually reset it like this.
>>>>
>>>>> +    }
>>>>>
>>>>> +    elf_hwcap = boot_hwcap;
>>>>
>>>> And then reset it here to the boot cpu.
>>>>
>>>> Shoudn't we only report the features supported by all cores?  Otherwise
>>>> we'll still have problems if the boot cpu supports a feature, but not
>>>> others.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm. The other side of the argument is boot cpu does have a feature that
>>> is not supported by other hart that didn't even boot.
>>> The user space may execute something based on boot cpu capability but
>>> that won't be enabled.
>>>
>>> At least, in this way we know that we are compatible completely with
>>> boot cpu capabilities. Thoughts ?
>>
>> There is one example on the market, e.g., Samsung Exynos 9810.
>>
>> Mongoose 3 (big cores) only support ARMv8.0, while Cortex-A55
>> (little ones) support ARMv8.2 (and that brings atomics support).
>> I think, it's the only ARM SOC that supports different ISA extensions
>> between cores on the same package.
>>
>> Kernel scheduler doesn't know that big cores are missing atomics
>> support or that applications needs it and moves the thread
>> resulting in illegal instruction.
>>
>> E.g., see Golang issue: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/28431
>>
>> I also recall Jon Masters (Computer Architect at Red Hat) advocating
>> against having cores with mismatched capabilities on the server market.
>>
>> It just causes more problems down the line.
> 
> IMO the best bet is to only put extensions in HWCAP that are supported by all
> the harts that userspace will be scheduled on.
> 
Fair enough. Instead of setting HWCAP in setup_arch() once, we can set 
it only for boot cpu. It will be updated after every cpu comes up online.

Thus, HWCAP will consists all extensions supported by all cpus that are 
online currently.


Regards,
Atish

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-11 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-08  1:51 [v3 PATCH 0/8] Various SMP related fixes Atish Patra
2019-02-08  1:51 ` [v3 PATCH 1/8] RISC-V: Do not wait indefinitely in __cpu_up Atish Patra
2019-02-08  9:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-08  1:51 ` [v3 PATCH 2/8] RISC-V: Move cpuid to hartid mapping to SMP Atish Patra
2019-02-08  9:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-08 22:56     ` Atish Patra
2019-02-08  1:51 ` [v3 PATCH 3/8] RISC-V: Remove NR_CPUs check during hartid search from DT Atish Patra
2019-02-08  1:51 ` [v3 PATCH 4/8] RISC-V: Allow hartid-to-cpuid function to fail Atish Patra
2019-02-08  1:51 ` [v3 PATCH 5/8] RISC-V: Compare cpuid with NR_CPUS before mapping Atish Patra
2019-02-08  1:51 ` [v3 PATCH 6/8] clocksource/drivers/riscv: Add required checks during clock source init Atish Patra
2019-02-08  9:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-08 22:56     ` Atish Patra
2019-02-08  1:51 ` [v3 PATCH 7/8] irqchip/irq-sifive-plic:: Check and continue in case of an invalid cpuid Atish Patra
2019-02-08  1:51 ` [v3 PATCH 8/8] RISC-V: Assign hwcap only according to boot cpu Atish Patra
2019-02-08  9:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-08 23:02     ` Atish Patra
2019-02-09  4:26       ` David Abdurachmanov
2019-02-09 16:11         ` Marc Zyngier
2019-02-11 19:02         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-02-11 20:03           ` Atish Patra [this message]
2019-02-11 22:13             ` Marc Zyngier
2019-02-11 22:23               ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-02-11 23:25                 ` Atish Patra
2019-02-11 13:23   ` Andreas Schwab

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