On Thu 2019-04-04 14:48:35, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 1:42 PM Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > > > And what to do if internal keyboard is not platform but USB? Like
> > > > > Google "Whiskers"? (I am not sure why you decided to drop my mention
> > > > > of internal USB keyboards completely off your reply).
> > > >
> > > > I don't have answers for everything. Even if you have USB keyboard, you'll
> > > > likely still have backlight connected to embedded controller. If not,
> > > > then maybe you have exception userland needs to know about.
> > > >
> > > > Still better than making everything an exception.
> > >
> > > You do not need to make everything exception. You just need to look
> > > beyond the name, and see how the device is connected. And then apply
> > > your exceptions for "weird" devices.
> >
> > "Where it is connected" is not interesting to the userland. "Is it
> > backlight for internal keyboard" is the right question. It may be
> > connected to embedded controller or some kind of controller over
> > i2c... my shell scripts should not need to know about architecture of
> > every notebook out there.
> 
> Then your scripts will be failing for some setups.

Well, yes. Do you want to guess what "lp5523:kb3" is?

> > But I don't see why I should do additional work when its trivial for
> > kernel to just name the LED in an useful way.
> >
> > "platform::kbd_backlight" has no disadvantages compared to
> > "wilco::kbd_backlight" ... so lets just use it.
> 
> It has disadvantages because it promises more than it can deliver IMO.
> If device name != "platform::kbd_backlight" it does not mean that it
> is not internal keyboard.

My promise is if "platform::kbd_backlight" exists, it is backlight for
internal keyboard. (And second half is "if it is easy for kernel, we
name backlight for internal keyboard platform::kbd_backlight").

> And you still have not resolved how you will
> handle cases when there is more than one deice that can be considered
> internal and may have a backlight.

Is that realistic? How would that device look like?

									Pavel
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