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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, zohar@linux.ibm.com,
	roberto.sassu@huawei.com,  miklos@szeredi.hu, brauner@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] ima: Fix detection of read/write violations on stacked filesystems
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:02:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxgvHjU-n56ryOp5yWQF=yKz0Cfo0ZieypWJhqsBV4g-2w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240422150651.2908169-1-stefanb@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 6:07 PM Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> This series fixes the detection of read/write violations on stacked
> filesystems. To be able to access the relevant dentries necessary to
> detect files opened for writing on a stacked filesystem a new d_real_type
> D_REAL_FILEDATA is introduced that allows callers to access all relevant
> files involved in a stacked filesystem while traversing the layers.
>

Stefan,

Both Miklos and myself objected to this solution:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-unionfs/CAJfpeguctirEYECoigcAsJwpGPCX2NyfMZ8H8GHGW-0UyKfjgg@mail.gmail.com/

Not sure what you are hoping to achieve from re-posting the same solution.

I stopped counting how many times I already argued that *all* IMA/EVM
assertions,
including rw-ro violations should be enforced only on the real inode.
I know this does not work - so you should find out why it does not work and fix
the problem.

Enforcing IMA/EVM on the overlayfs inode layer is just the wrong way IMO.
Not once have I heard an argument from IMA/EVM developers why it is really
needed to enforce IMA/EVM on the overlayfs inode layer and not on the
real inode.
I am sorry that we are failing to communicate on this matter, but I am not
sure how else I can help.

Thanks,
Amir.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-23  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-22 15:06 [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] ima: Fix detection of read/write violations on stacked filesystems Stefan Berger
2024-04-22 15:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] ovl: Define D_REAL_FILEDATA for d_real to return dentry with data Stefan Berger
2024-04-23  5:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-22 15:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] ima: Fix detection of read/write violations on stacked filesystems Stefan Berger
2024-04-22 16:15   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-04-23  6:02 ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2024-04-23 10:53   ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] " Stefan Berger
2024-04-23 13:20   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-04-23 14:30     ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-26  9:51       ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-25 11:30   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-04-25 12:37     ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-26  7:34       ` Roberto Sassu
2024-04-27  9:03         ` Amir Goldstein
2024-05-06 12:34           ` Roberto Sassu

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